Kremlin says hypersonic missile strike on Ukraine was a warning to the west

The Kremlin said on Friday that a strike on Ukraine using a newly developed hypersonic ballistic missile was designed to warn the west that Moscow will respond to moves by the US and the UK to let Kyiv strike Russia with their missiles.

According to Agence France-Presse (AFP), the Kremlin spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, was speaking a day after Russian president, Vladimir Putin, said Moscow had fired the new missile – the Oreshnik or ‘hazel tree’- at a Ukrainian military facility.

Peskov said Russia had not been obliged to warn the US about the strike, but had informed the US 30 minutes before the launch anyway. Putin remained open to dialogue, Peskov said.

  • menemen@lemmy.ml
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    19 hours ago

    First ICBM ever used in conflict according to some military bloggers on twitter Twitter.

            • IWantToMakeProgress [any]
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              5 hours ago

              Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer - Date: Sep 26, 2015

              John J. Mearsheimer, the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor in Political Science and Co-director of the Program on International Security Policy at the University of Chicago, assesses the causes of the present Ukraine crisis, the best way to end it, and its consequences for all of the main actors. A key assumption is that in order to come up with the optimum plan for ending the crisis, it is essential to know what caused the crisis. Regarding the all-important question of causes, the key issue is whether Russia or the West bears primary responsibility.

              Watch this and think for yourself. A very similar comparison is Cuban Missile Crisis 1962.

            • SoyViking [he/him]
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              21 hours ago

              Pretty much, yes. If one great power keeps threatening and encroaching on another and undermines all attempts at diplomacy, it's pretty obvious what is going to happen.

              • Devorlon@lemmy.zip
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                18 hours ago

                Yes the greatest threat, if you attack me and my friends we'll attack you. Very scary so aggressive

                • SoyViking [he/him]
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                  18 hours ago

                  Me and my friends, just standing here next to you, brandishing our weapons...

                  • Devorlon@lemmy.zip
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                    17 hours ago

                    As a deterrent, because I've never seen a NATO country attack Russia but have seen Russia invade plenty of countries not in NATO.

                    It's almost like countries want to join NATO to avoid being invaded by Russia.

                • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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                  17 hours ago

                  Hey neighbor, you don't mind if I invite over my serial killer friend with "1488 gas all Devorlons" tattooed across his forehead to stay over for a while, right? Btw we're building a deer hunting stand in my yard with a perfect view of the couch you post from, don't freak out about it though. It's just a couple of guys hanging out.

                  • Devorlon@lemmy.zip
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                    17 hours ago

                    Yep, just you and your friend in your property, as long as you don't attack it doesn't matter.

                    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-crisis-usa-idUSKBN2BV2Z3/

                    • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]
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                      3 hours ago

                      You genuinely think that someone who specifically wants to kill you making preparations from which they can kill you is fine, as long as they don't actually kill you? You're not a tiny bit bothered by the possibility of them actually killing you?

            • DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]
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              21 hours ago

              Yeah there you go! Always nice to see people come around to a linear time, material conditions, and context view of the world instead of just vibes.

            • Maturin [any]
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              22 hours ago

              I suppose it’s also NATOs fault Russia invaded Ukraine in the first place?

              side-eye-1

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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              22 hours ago

              Yes, as many western experts explained in great detail for many decades now. Yet, we still have ignoramuses running around pretending that's not the case. Even Stoltenberg has admitted this on record at this point, time to update your script

              He wanted us to sign that promise, never to enlarge NATO. He wanted us to remove our military infrastructure in all Allies that have joined NATO since 1997, meaning half of NATO, all the Central and Eastern Europe, we should remove NATO from that part of our Alliance, introducing some kind of B, or second class membership. We rejected that. So he went to war to prevent NATO, more NATO, close to his borders.

              https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_218172.htm

            • Gucci_Minh [he/him]
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              22 hours ago

              Yes lmao, if they didn't ignore the minsk agreements and do a coup (maidan) to install a CIA handpicked government, this would not have happened.

            • RedWizard [he/him, comrade/them]
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              19 hours ago

              During WWII, America shocked the world when they revealed their nuclear capacity by dropping not one, but two atomic bombs on strictly civilian targets. Since then, they have maintained a first strike policy, meaning, their plans for their nuclear arsenal are not defensive, but aggressive and the highest form of escalation.

              During the Korean War, Dugless MacArthur asked the joint chiefs of staff for approval to use nuclear weapons on China, to the tune of 30, to 50 nuclear strikes. They approved. MacArthur's goal was to create a radioactive no-mans land across Russia and China to act as a buffer zone between after the war was "won".

              During the JFK Administration, they drew up plans for nuclear first strike against the Soviet Union if conflict in Berlin turned violent.

              The Nixon administration drew up plans to drop nuclear bombs on North Vietnam.

              Just this week, news broke that the Biden administration is considering giving Ukraine nukes. "Several officials even suggested that Mr. Biden could return nuclear weapons to Ukraine that were taken from it after the fall of the Soviet Union." You'll tell me this is strictly defensive, then I beg you to consider reading why the Soviet Union was giving Cuba nuclear weapons during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

              The only place threatening a Nuclear Holocaust is the United States. They remain today the only country on earth to have dropped not one, but two atomic bombs on war targets (read civilian populations).

              • FromPieces@lemmygrad.ml
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                16 hours ago

                There were some anecdotes I remember reading (that I'd really appreciate some sources on, if ever I get around to investigating) about how the Soviet Union during the Cold War maintained a steely eyed, ice cold resolve as the US was doing everything they could to spark a nuclear war. Pieces I remember are times the US flew bombers at Moscow, watching for Soviet reaction, hoping to find out the range ability of Soviet radar.

                And then the Cuban Missile Crisis of course

            • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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              20 hours ago

              America, the only country ever to drop nukes on two cities full of people as a terror tactic, has a nuclear first strike policy and is therefore threatening the entire world with nuclear holocaust at all times. I agree, we're the bad guys.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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              21 hours ago

              The fact that you don't understand how idiotic that statement is says volumes about you. Imagine for a second what would happened if Russia started lobbing missiles into Florida from Cuba. Oh wait, we don't have to imagine we know exactly what would happen. Killer clowns like you are gonna be the reason our civilization ends.

                • Grapho@lemmy.ml
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                  9 hours ago

                  The USA literally has a torture camp in Cuba with admittedly innocent people being held for life.

                  I swear to god Americans know more about the Marvel movies than about their fucking state.

                  • ᗪᗩᗰᑎ@lemmy.ml
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                    9 hours ago

                    apologies for not exactly spelling it out for you - is the US actively bombing innocent cubans? I get it, there's a torture camp- wish it didn't exist. analogies don't have to be perfect.

                    • Grapho@lemmy.ml
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                      9 hours ago

                      You're literally the one nitpicking the analogy lmao.

                      Anyway, keep up the cope, gringo. Enjoy your cost of living crisis while yall froth at the mouth about Raytheon-appointed scapegoat.

                      • ᗪᗩᗰᑎ@lemmy.ml
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                        8 hours ago

                        You’re literally the one nitpicking the analogy lmao.

                        you literally started it ¯_(ツ)_/¯ - apologies for not phrasing it properly, English is not my first language.

                        Enjoy your cost of living crisis

                        que miedo 😱