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the fuck is that party, 5 in 10 being happy with cheney

  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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    11 hours ago

    They're not happy with Cheney per se, they're happy with b i p a r t i s a n s h i p.

    They'll do anything to play to the middle, no matter where that middle is. If (when) someone emerges in the Republican Party who is more cutthroat than Trump, they'll rehabilitate him and talk about how civil it used to be in the Trump years when there was "rule of law" and we "weren't so divided".

    • Class_of_1917 [comrade/them]
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      11 hours ago

      Nobody but comfortable liberals actually wants this. Just the brunch squad who writes for the NYT

      • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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        9 hours ago

        Myopic liberals will go with it because you can be a fairly intelligent person and still fail to identify the trajectory after seeing it for 15+ years.

        There are a lot of people with a surface-level understanding of politics.

  • DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]
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    1 day ago

    The dems having only a tiny sliver of "less enthusiastic" really drives home just how pathetically obedient they are

  • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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    1 day ago

    What’s extra weird is the whole vibe of Harris was “disgruntled republicans: voting for me is how you will teach the GOP a lesson and have them run someone who isn’t Trump. I am a Republican protest vote!”

    Democrats have to be controlled opposition, even I as a kid who knew very little about politics could tell you that republicans are fiercely loyal to their party no matter what.

    • plinky [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 day ago

      But this time it would be different meow-cactus

      I now believe (allegedly) leftist parties run to the right until they get to 50/50 in fptp, and then await a coin toss. (or its labour effect on campaign, but still might hold true)

  • Ericthescruffy [he/him]
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    1 day ago

    My whole family is full of Reagan era conservatives who fucking love Liz cheney. The thing is: they all switched during the Obama years and haven't voted Republican in a fucking decade. The thing that always makes me feel like the Democrats are delusional and/or taking the piss is that I genuinely don't think my family is that far off the mark. Anyone Republican who Cheney would have appealed to is already a resistance lib, and everyone else has fully drunk the MAGA coolaid.

  • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
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    1 day ago

    Brilliant campaign strategy to win over a very slim majority of the people who already committed to voting for you no matter what and literally no one else.

  • DerRedMax [comrade/them, any]
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    1 day ago

    More importantly, it was a -7 point swing.

    28% said less enthusiastic while 21% said more. Half didn’t give a shit!

    So they lost more independent voters than they gained by tacking ever farther right.

    the fuck is that party, 5 in 10 being happy with cheney

    I read that as 50% didn’t give a shit.

    • buckykat [none/use name]
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      1 day ago

      The DNC has this (delusion/lie) that all "independent voters" have ideology situated exactly halfway between the two major parties.

  • miz [any, any]
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    1 day ago

    when was this data taken though? after the election people have an incentive to lie about the reasons to avoid self-blame

    • plinky [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 day ago

      https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2024/11/22/new-data-shows-the-economy-was-the-deciding-factor-for-voters-in-pennsylvania-and-michigan-and-harris-missed-opportunities-to-play-up-economic-populism

      A new analysis from Data for Progress in partnership with the Progressive Change Institute of polling conducted in Pennsylvania and Michigan during election week suggests