Just would like to have a discussion on the topic. I've purchased around 20ish movies/shows on Vudu, and my wife has grown to be unhappy with Vudu's UI and especially how the watch progress works. I am curious what some others thoughts on this are. My initial thoughts are I recognize I've purchased a license to watch the content, but feel that because I've purchased it I should have the right to retain total control over it and do what I please. I would like to purchase movies on physical media from now on, but wouldn't like to repurchase all the same movies and shows again when I've already paid for them
::: you can download it off internet archive
you need:
- windows - maybe, ive only tried on windows
- internet archive account
- adobe digital editions
- calibre with alf's de-drm plug-in
borrow the book
put this link into your browser and replace bookid with the identifier
https://archive.org/services/loans/loan/?action=media_url&identifier=BOOKID&format=pdf&redirect=1you should get acsm file open it in adobe digital editions you now have drm-protected pdf in my documents/my digital editions/
add this pdf to calibre (with the plug in installed)
now you have drm-free pdf
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easier solution - just search it up with a book search engine
It's not even wrong to pirate movies you don't own and put them on your plex server
Not necessarily - depends on the way of obtaining the file. Downloading a copyrighted video is not illegal (it's fair use), sharing it with others is illegal. If they downloaded it directly without sharing, that's perfectly legal.
I think it's more wrong how writers make pennies while the fat suits at Hollywood make even more absurd amounts of money. Fuck them. Pirate.
Since you're talking about "wrong", rather than "illegal", you seem to approach this from a moral angle instead of a legal one. And when it comes to morality, that's something you can only define for yourself.
Personally I don't see any problems there, nor do I see a problem with pirating unlicensed content. If I would never have paid to watch a certain movie, the rightsholder doesn't make a factual loss. They can cry about opportunity costs all day long, but if it's not a "cinema vs. piracy" but a "piracy vs. nothing at all" discussion, it's pretty much a moot point.
And when it comes to morality, that's something you can only define for yourself.
Well the point of his coming here to discuss the ethics of it was to go beyond his own starting moral intuitions, to consider arguments and perspectives that pertain to the ethics of the act in question. The view that morality is a personal matter is a non-starter as far as moral philosophy goes. The ball is in OP's court over who/what to consult to find relevant ethical considerations, and it's up to him to reason those out and whether to follow them, but that doesn't make the ethics itself something for him to define.
Yeah you've hit the nail on the head. I was merely trying to gain some perspectives outside my own. Ethics is not something for me to define at all. That being said, I've decided that I have paid for the media and as such have a right to retain full control over that media as long as I don't sell it or distribute it widely.
Yeah I know it's not legal in my country and state, but was just trying to get a feel for different opinions on the morality of my question. For me I just like making sure the creator of the media I really enjoy get's some kind of support, that way I'm voting a little with my dollar. So far I'm really thinking I've paid for the media once and once is more than enough.
If you want to support the creator, spread the word. Paying for things will generally just fill the purses of some rich ass media company execs who sit around all day masturbating on their third yacht.
By spreading the word, the creator is suddenly known for "having created this media that everyone knows", landing them better deals with media corporations.
This concept applies to pretty much all media in all forms.
You’ve paid for the right to watch the movie. The movie industry will argue that you’ve just paid for the right to access that physical copy and I’m sure from a legal point of view they’re right as they’ve lobbied to increase control out of greed and the hope of being able to get more money out of you for the same effort.
Morally you paid to access the content, you paid to compensate the creators for their work. Now you’re entitled to view what you’ve paid for.
Personally, I feel the same way you do about DRM. If you've paid to own it, then it should be owned outright. With this in mind, I would say pirating them wouldn't lose you any moral ground.
Intellectual property doesn't exist, so no, not wrong at all.
Is it wrong to pirate movies [...] and load onto my Plex server?
no
The writers and actors are on strike right now, and if you pay for media before their strike is over, it makes it easier for Hollywood to profit off existing media, ignore the writers and actors, and starve the writers and actors out.
If you want to support writers and actors while they are on strike, so that Hollywood folds first, consider donating to
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WGAE members' strike fund
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WGA Solidarity Assistance Fund (supports both East and West)
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Food and practical support for their picket lines
Numerous people ON the strike have debunked this, watching things made pre strike pays the actors and writers as well, just don’t consume post strike media.
Strike funds aren't something you can debunk. And if they were being paid enough already, they wouldn't be striking.
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This is a corporate run late stage capitalism hell hole. Do whatever you want that doesn’t hurt people, unless they’re bad people.
When you purchase a physical copy of a movie in general; you obtain and retain the right to "copy your copy" and "use it strictly for personal use" ad infinitum.
So yes, it's completely 💯% ethical piracy to pirate titles you already paid for but found the format to be lacking. You don't owe filmmakers a second purchase for a new or better format. Don't bother getting into the weeds over per-screen or per-head copies either; you don't owe them that either. Just don't screen a film for more than 3-5 people outside of your immediate household family who are not related to you by blood or name and you'll probably never run into Copyright Lawsuits... because it'll never be worth their time to bother.
Pirate away happily matey. Don't let people fool you into thinking you are more or less ethical in your piracy than what you yourself believes is ethical or unethical. You decide how you will and want to pirate because a pirate is free.
Would you care to elaborate? I don't really see how it would be wrong?
Just to have a discussion and get to see some of the different opinions out there.
