That's the worst part of this, Ukraine and Russia could have come to terms at basically any point through this, but the West keeps stringing Ukraine along with promises of support/NATO membership.

But instead a few hundred thousand people are killed and maimed, cities are leveled, and the land is salted with uxo that will continue to kill and main for generations to come.

And if you ask your average Natoid they'll say it's worth it "to bleed Russia" because thats what they've been conditioned to say from birth. The West is really willing to fight to the last Ukrainian, just like they're willing to feed any of their past proxies into woodchippers.

It's all so fucking bleak, and NATO leaders seem fine with repeatedly provoking Russia and escalating the war. Not that it's anything new of course, the entire Cuban missile crisis is still framed as "those evil soviets wanted to base missiles right next to America to bypass warning systems, how dastardly! American missiles were already based in Turkey for the same reasons? Never heard of it!"