For a species that can calculate derivatives, project ballistic trajectories, and estimate sales volumes, it is astounding that humans stubbornly refuse to even acknowledge the negative effects of …
  • frauddogg [null/void, undecided]
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    23 days ago

    What kind of Malthusian shit is this?

    I'll tell y'all what: if overpopulation is really such a problem to you, then be the change you want to see in the world; 'cause ain't nobody I've ever seen talk about "overpopulation" has ever stopped to wonder if they're the problem. Nooooo, it's always the browns out of the Malthuses and the Tsakraklides of the world.

    • NewDark [he/him]
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      23 days ago

      Well, I think it's important to recognize these problems without going in the fascist direction. Overshoot is real and a problem. The solution isn't melting the poors and 'useless eaters', when the rich are disproportionately the problem.

      We also need more collective cooperation to course correct yesterday, similar to climate change but this shit is more holistic.

      • imogen_underscore [it/its, she/her]
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        23 days ago

        Especially for Monbiot, the usual argument is that the problem is not all humans, but only the rich humans. As a biologist I can tell you this argument is invalid, because rich and poor humans are identical biologically, therefore they have the same natural propensity for overconsumption, destruction and waste, given the chance. Aside from that, “poor” humans are equally wasteful to rich humans, when you consider their huge number compared to the rich. The contribution of poor people to the climate crisis and ecological collapse on this planet is immense, despite the fact that on an individual basis it is negligible compared to rich people. What matters is total impact on the planet, not per capita.