Peterson is speaking (validly) about abstracted archetypal concepts. These are a part of human psychology, mythology and religion, although not necessarily in that order. The problem with materialists like Dawkins is their denial of the existence of anything other than the material and in order to do this they have to inhabit a dishonest duality that denies fundamental parts of their own selves, not least their own sentience. At least Peterson isn't lying to himself at an existential level.

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