Most kkkristians have never once read through through their bible. What they do is read a few passages which make them feel validated over and over again, plus maybe whatever passage their preacher is talking about that week.
Unfortunately for every one of those you also get a "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ."
I went to church quite often when I was younger and sometimes still do because a lot of my gf's family is heavily religious and it's basically just reading a few passages at a time. Something happens in the world or local community or in one of the member's life and they look for bible passages that can be applied to that situation.
I went to church once because one of my college friends wanted to save me, a godless atheist. I saw this too. The pastor was talking about something like why husbands are able to divorce their wives but not the other way round. (Is this even a thing? It was a while back.) He said it's because divorce is painful process and God does not want you to suffer it. Ok bud.
Jesus was really, really, really serious about divorce being a no-no. He talked about it more than abortion (which he never talked about). Neither party is to ever seek a divorce, regardless of adultery, abuse, etc. The whole Catholic-Protestant schism occurred because King James wanted a divorce and the Pope told him no.
What that pastor said should be considered blasphemy by the majority of Christians.
It was a presbytarian church so I don't know where they fit in the picture. My main issue was not the possible blasphemy but how they were trying to whitewash an asymmetry in rights between the husband and the wife.
Oh. Oh. Yeah that's a super, duper no-no lmao. Presbyterianism is just like the Catholicism, except pastors can get married, be women, and divorce is allowed. They don't do confession or confirmation. Otherwise, they have a lot of the same doctrines and interpretations. They're one of the sects closest to Roman Orthodox.
I'd expect that comment out of an Evangelical preacher, but a Presbyterian pastor? He's venturing outside of what his own sect believes.
Do religious folks, like, just read their religious texts over and over again? I thought it would be a one and done kind of deal.
This is the thing that set me down my atheism journey as a kid. My autistic ass heard Grandma constantly telling me to read the Bible, so I did. Cover-to-cover, a few chapters a night.
And me being Lil Mr. Attention to Detail starting picking apart things like: Wait a sec. Jesus' ancestry in Luke is completely different from the one in Matthew. This book is supposed to be infallible, what the heck!
I did the same when I was about 12. I was dumbfounded by how mean, bitter and vengeful old-testament god was, and then suddenly he became a god of love and compassion.
My theory is that the people posting these memes are not themselves meaningfully religious, so they have no idea what actually being a devoted christian would look like and assume it's just reading the bible over and over.
You can't really justify this bigotry by weird interpretations of religious texts since they are products of a time when Islam had not made a significant connection to India. The devout Hindus I mention do not really read religious texts. They just listen to fascist demagogues on YouTube and WhatsApp etc.
I don't mean to say that Hinduism in its "real" form is good and inclusionary. (I don't have a strong opinion about this but I feel what I have been told of the Hindu epics seems problematic to put it lightly.) Just that the modern interpretation of the religion has taken a life of its own and spun out of control. Hinduism as it exists today is defined by what RSS and BJP preach it as and I don't see any opposing voices within the religion. So I feel it cannot be redeemed.
One of these days I will write up my effort post about how the principal contradiction in white evangelical Christianity is between the reactionaries who are drawn to that particular brand of religion because it fundamentally supports white supremacy, settler colonialism, patriarchy, etc, and those who have a more solid theological understanding and recognize that their religion is constantly shrinking so they can’t afford to alienate anyone who isn’t precisely like them (while noting that this second group is usually every bit as socially reactionary as the first).
One of these days I will write up my effort post about how the principle contradiction in white evangelical Christianity is between the reactionaries who are drawn to that particular brand of religion because it fundamentally supports white supremacy and settler colonialism, and those who have a more solid theological understanding and recognize that their religion is constantly shrinking so they can’t afford to alienate anyone who isn’t precisely like them (while noting that this second group is usually every bit as socially reactionary as the first).
Do religious folks, like, just read their religious texts over and over again? I thought it would be a one and done kind of deal.
Most kkkristians have never once read through through their bible. What they do is read a few passages which make them feel validated over and over again, plus maybe whatever passage their preacher is talking about that week.
That's me with the "you have hoarded riches in the last days, you have fattened your hearts on the day of slaughter" quote. What a banger.
Unfortunately for every one of those you also get a "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ."
I went to church quite often when I was younger and sometimes still do because a lot of my gf's family is heavily religious and it's basically just reading a few passages at a time. Something happens in the world or local community or in one of the member's life and they look for bible passages that can be applied to that situation.
I went to church once because one of my college friends wanted to save me, a godless atheist. I saw this too. The pastor was talking about something like why husbands are able to divorce their wives but not the other way round. (Is this even a thing? It was a while back.) He said it's because divorce is painful process and God does not want you to suffer it. Ok bud.
Jesus was really, really, really serious about divorce being a no-no. He talked about it more than abortion (which he never talked about). Neither party is to ever seek a divorce, regardless of adultery, abuse, etc. The whole Catholic-Protestant schism occurred because King James wanted a divorce and the Pope told him no.
What that pastor said should be considered blasphemy by the majority of Christians.
It was a presbytarian church so I don't know where they fit in the picture. My main issue was not the possible blasphemy but how they were trying to whitewash an asymmetry in rights between the husband and the wife.
Oh. Oh. Yeah that's a super, duper no-no lmao. Presbyterianism is just like the Catholicism, except pastors can get married, be women, and divorce is allowed. They don't do confession or confirmation. Otherwise, they have a lot of the same doctrines and interpretations. They're one of the sects closest to Roman Orthodox.
I'd expect that comment out of an Evangelical preacher, but a Presbyterian pastor? He's venturing outside of what his own sect believes.
This is the thing that set me down my atheism journey as a kid. My autistic ass heard Grandma constantly telling me to read the Bible, so I did. Cover-to-cover, a few chapters a night.
And me being Lil Mr. Attention to Detail starting picking apart things like: Wait a sec. Jesus' ancestry in Luke is completely different from the one in Matthew. This book is supposed to be infallible, what the heck!
I did the same when I was about 12. I was dumbfounded by how mean, bitter and vengeful old-testament god was, and then suddenly he became a god of love and compassion.
I remember reading the Joshua book and thinking "these dudes were insane" 😐
My theory is that the people posting these memes are not themselves meaningfully religious, so they have no idea what actually being a devoted christian would look like and assume it's just reading the bible over and over.
Yeah it's the same way with "devout" Hindus that I know. The religion seems to mainly revolve around hating Muslims and other minorities.
Almost as if they just want a justification for their hatred.
You can't really justify this bigotry by weird interpretations of religious texts since they are products of a time when Islam had not made a significant connection to India. The devout Hindus I mention do not really read religious texts. They just listen to fascist demagogues on YouTube and WhatsApp etc.
I don't mean to say that Hinduism in its "real" form is good and inclusionary. (I don't have a strong opinion about this but I feel what I have been told of the Hindu epics seems problematic to put it lightly.) Just that the modern interpretation of the religion has taken a life of its own and spun out of control. Hinduism as it exists today is defined by what RSS and BJP preach it as and I don't see any opposing voices within the religion. So I feel it cannot be redeemed.
One of these days I will write up my effort post about how the principal contradiction in white evangelical Christianity is between the reactionaries who are drawn to that particular brand of religion because it fundamentally supports white supremacy, settler colonialism, patriarchy, etc, and those who have a more solid theological understanding and recognize that their religion is constantly shrinking so they can’t afford to alienate anyone who isn’t precisely like them (while noting that this second group is usually every bit as socially reactionary as the first).
luther when he was done with james:
One of these days I will write up my effort post about how the principle contradiction in white evangelical Christianity is between the reactionaries who are drawn to that particular brand of religion because it fundamentally supports white supremacy and settler colonialism, and those who have a more solid theological understanding and recognize that their religion is constantly shrinking so they can’t afford to alienate anyone who isn’t precisely like them (while noting that this second group is usually every bit as socially reactionary as the first).
yah we do, find something new everytime.
Only people who regularily read the bible are theologians, militant atheists and the real fundie freaks.
kinda like people who watch the office over and over
As someone who was raised evangelical this is actually a fantastic comparison.
i think its because it's contradictory, hard to understand or interpret, and very long so it's easy forget most of it