i think it's basically a prerequisite right now. now that the propaganda has been so effective, i think any attempt to organize people for real change would be a whole lot easier.
A prerequisite to what? The 1800s era of propaganda of the deed? It was effective in stirring sentiment, sure, but it didn't accomplish anything compared to other examples I mentioned and to what I said.
I also personally think people who advocate for this type of risky direct action should be leading the example. As who of those that advocate organization; not everyone on here is just "not organizing".
A prerequisite to what? The 1800s era of propaganda of the deed? It was effective in stirring sentiment, sure, but it didn't accomplish anything compared to other examples I mentioned and to what I said.
i'd note there's probably kind of an inherent difference between propaganda of the deed in the 1800s and propaganda of the deed in 2024 where you can literally livestream it to millions
I agree. I mentioned earlier that sure, you get more spread and reach. On the other edge of the sword you have people way more comfortable and steeped into even deeper echo chambers and paradigms. Propaganda of the deed nowadays can reach millions and we've seen something like this before. Did it really inspire anything other than some people on the internet cheering for the next week? It isn't the first time an insurance CEO was iced in NYC.
i don't think assassinations alone will fix anything, but i think any action that would fix anything is far more likely to happen now that the assassination has changed people's sentiments. i'm not proposing any real solutions, but i feel like any real solution is at least more likely to happen now than it was before.
I can understand that. I think what I'm trying to say is that action generally is paralyzed in the core. It is dominated by a labor aristocracy that extracts and bleeds the periphery dry in order to maintain it's hegemony. Trying to bust through this requires recruiting from the most marginalized, oppressed and distraught in the core which typically are also affected by alienation and can have their own "views" if you can get what I mean.
If we had figured out the proper action, we'd be chilling in space discussing this over a bust of Marx and Lenin. Sadly, we're here. Truly, I think it's partially a waiting game with the rest dictated by how you organize with your local community that being your neighbors, your family, your friend's family, etc. Getting into an actual functional party around you is something for after you know who's around you and you can take the extra work and mental stress.
This "action" has been demonstrated in history countless times over. I have no doubt we'll see it pop up more and more. I also have no doubt that we'll know exactly where it ends.
i think it's basically a prerequisite right now. now that the propaganda has been so effective, i think any attempt to organize people for real change would be a whole lot easier.
A prerequisite to what? The 1800s era of propaganda of the deed? It was effective in stirring sentiment, sure, but it didn't accomplish anything compared to other examples I mentioned and to what I said.
I also personally think people who advocate for this type of risky direct action should be leading the example. As who of those that advocate organization; not everyone on here is just "not organizing".
i'd note there's probably kind of an inherent difference between propaganda of the deed in the 1800s and propaganda of the deed in 2024 where you can literally livestream it to millions
I agree. I mentioned earlier that sure, you get more spread and reach. On the other edge of the sword you have people way more comfortable and steeped into even deeper echo chambers and paradigms. Propaganda of the deed nowadays can reach millions and we've seen something like this before. Did it really inspire anything other than some people on the internet cheering for the next week? It isn't the first time an insurance CEO was iced in NYC.
Hegemony wasn't implanted as deep in the 1800s.
i don't think assassinations alone will fix anything, but i think any action that would fix anything is far more likely to happen now that the assassination has changed people's sentiments. i'm not proposing any real solutions, but i feel like any real solution is at least more likely to happen now than it was before.
I can understand that. I think what I'm trying to say is that action generally is paralyzed in the core. It is dominated by a labor aristocracy that extracts and bleeds the periphery dry in order to maintain it's hegemony. Trying to bust through this requires recruiting from the most marginalized, oppressed and distraught in the core which typically are also affected by alienation and can have their own "views" if you can get what I mean.
If we had figured out the proper action, we'd be chilling in space discussing this over a bust of Marx and Lenin. Sadly, we're here. Truly, I think it's partially a waiting game with the rest dictated by how you organize with your local community that being your neighbors, your family, your friend's family, etc. Getting into an actual functional party around you is something for after you know who's around you and you can take the extra work and mental stress.
This "action" has been demonstrated in history countless times over. I have no doubt we'll see it pop up more and more. I also have no doubt that we'll know exactly where it ends.