If someone votes for Biden fine, I'm not going to tell someone not to do that. At the same time I don't think there is much value in trying to brow beat people who have legitimate objections to Biden from the left to vote for him. I'm of the opinion that we are actually setting ourselves up for a much worse scenario, but there is really no good option at this point. It's doesn't really matter, if I drop dead today the outcome of this election isn't going to change. I think a lot of the frusteration stems from presenting the ballot box where politics beings and ends. If we say voting works if enough of us collectively work together for a political project and use candidates to fufill that, I'm fine with that, but were not in that scenario right now.