In light of recent events, the demcon project Rojava will be tested. What will they do now? Will AANES seek independence?
Trump has said the US shouldn't be involved in Syria, will he recall the remaining few thousand US troops from Syria? Or will the neocons convince Trump he can engage in "good" nation-building and create Kurdistan from AANES and northern Iraq? Would SDF go for such a plan since their stated goal is not a Kurdish state, but a multicultural state organised along the lines of democratic confederalism?
It's a sham. Look where the US bases in Syria are.
Bingo!!! People need to ignore aesthetics and what people say. They need to look at actions and motives.
Sinochem, a Chinese company is extracting oil from Syria in the oil fields controlled by DAANES/SDF. Are the Chinese engaging in imperialism in Syria?
Sinochem stopped operations in Syria in 2011, according to its partner Gulfsands Petroleum. Do you have any source that they are continuing operations after 2011?
So he lied about China. What a surprise.
Who lied about China? Multitotal? It doesn't read like that to me.
Yeah may be he was just misinformed. Happens to all of us some times.
Why are you such an asshole?
Because you are.
I only called you an asshole because you accused me of lying, i.e. willful deception, and I meant to do no such thing. I made a mistake and thought Sinochem was still in Syria, I was wrong and admitted to the mistake.
It's all good man. I think it's a moot point anyways as rojava will likely get stabbed in the back by the US in favor of Turkey. I do feel for them. They are in a imperialist washing machine spun by various powers but they never should have trusted US imperialism.
I made a mistake, Sinochem had to stop operations because of EU sanctions on Syria. They are trying to get back though. Turns out Chinese oil companies don't use ultra-leftist logic, weird.
They did not leave because of sanctions, they reconsiders buying Syrian oil because of sanctions in 2018, four years after they pulled out. Your information is wrong again.
Not this time.
https://www.syria-oil.com/english/?p=2039
Brace Belden, is that you? Why are you on a tiny lemmygrad forum?
Imperialism? No. Being opportunistic capital parasites? Absolutely.
Still, they're not worse than the us/hrs.
Why is receiving some weapons from the US a greater sin than being opportunistic capital parasites? Why does China get critical support, but Rojava doesn't?
China has done so much more for humanity, even beyond the global fight against capitalism. Their contributions to science, health, and the arts are vast and plenty. Their support of the DPRK in resisting the US and the South's conquest is just one example of their long history of supporting AES around the globe. They ended extreme poverty in their own country, they're leading the world in renewable energy, they're always at the forefront of farming/food production breakthroughs, they forgive the debts of countries that have struggled with colonialism, they do business with countries that are being sanctioned by the US and I could go on but you get the idea.
rojava is just a worthless, temporarily-embarressed ethnostate that has accomplished nothing in its pathetic existence except support the destruction of an entire country suffering from civil war. Rojava has done nothing for humanity except curse it by actively supporting the interests of the US in western Asia. That's why self respecting communists won't support that shit-ass project that westerners glaze whenever they aren't already glazing the current religious, reactionary fascist that just displaced a secular, anti-imperialist leader.
tl;dr: China has done so much for the world, while rojava should be wiped off the map by HTS because it's just a blight.
Edit: I want to emphasize that both HTS and rojava should be utterly destroyed. Syria should be free of all western imperialists and their compradors.
Hope that helps 🙏🏼
One critique of China I have is them continuing to do business with the entity. Instead of or in addition to revenge tariffs and sanctions on US firms, they should sanction the entity. Let the US lose its pet in West Asia.
You want ISIS to genocide the Kurds so that you can be "proven right" in an internet argument. The state of you.
Not an ethnostate. Maybe you should learn abou Rojava before you "criticise them".
I want the extremists to kill each other so my country and the entire region can finally have peace. Yeah, you're correct.
What makes Rojava "extremist"?
That's not what you said. You said Rojava should be wiped off the map first, then as an afterthought edit said they should both be destroyed.
I don't know why you're allowed to advocate for ethnic cleansing and Islamic fascism, but here we are.
Just to confirm, is this a good thing: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/12/11/turkish-backed-fighters-accused-killing-soldiers-syria/ ?
How do you propose to defend the Kurds against SNA/HTS?
Chinese firms can still be imperial bloodsucking capitalists. So yes? What’s your point?
He doesn't have one, he just wants to justify considering Rojava a revolutionary force while it literally collaborates with the biggest imperialist that has ever existed in human history. He probably printed some posters and bought that movie Hillary Clinton made. Sunk costs.
Putin and Russia attempted to join NATO in 2003. Russia still sells uranium to the USA.
You're not applying a standard consistently, but it changes according to your feelings.
You probably printed ISIS flags because they are an "anti-imperialist force" lmao.
I don't like Russia and I think both Russia and China sucks for still not cutting off business with isntrael. May be if you don't assume my viewpoints and start amalgamating people you have had arguments with in the past.
Rich coming from the person who accused me of being Brace Belden, donating to Hillary Clinton and paying for true anon (I have heard the name, I have no idea what it is).
The fucking irony lmao. You saw me talk positively about Rojava and assumed all these different things about me.
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Sinochem stopped operations in Syria in 2011, according to its partner Gulfsands Petroleum. Unless multitotal shares with us a source of Sinochem having operations after 2011 until 2024, talking about Sinochem is only a red herring that misleads the attention from the abundant evidence of US continued pillaging of Syrian oil.
Not for any ideological reasons, though, they were forced to by sanctions
I made a mistake. They've been trying to get back ever since, though.
Thanks for confirming that US isn't getting any of oil from Rojava.
For this statement to be true, we have to ignore the following from the same article:
Are you implying that the US is doing a charity in that region when you are saying that they aren't getting any oil? If so, why is there a US oil firm in the Kurdish controlled north-east region which is also known as Rojava, also known as the Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria (AANES)?
I am not quite following your logic here.
Whoever ends up with the oil is irrelevant imo, the main objective for the US was that Syrian gov wasnt getting it. Although the US did indeed end up stealing a lot of it.
I agree with you here
How much oil did DCE extract/sell? I don't mean that as a gotcha, I am genuinely asking.
Many US companies "get contracts" for things they never deliver on. Many people scam the government in that way. The company could have also been a CIA front, a way to get operatives on the ground under the guise of "prospecting" or "making deals".
I'm not denying that Rojava isn't talking to the US or cooperating, they absolutely are. I'm just thinking that Rojava gets more out of the relationship, while they only contribute a little towards US' overall goals.
This is not a simple oil firm that has a website and produces all of this data transparently like any other S&P500 would. For context, this is an oil firm operating in the following conditions:
To go back to your main argument("Thanks for confirming that US isn’t getting any of oil from Rojava"), evidence show that they are profiting from this situation with Syrian oil. However, we don't know how much oil they are extracting because the data is muddied due to the legality of the actions done by the firm itself. In other words, this oil firm is actually delivering "something" that they are unable to say openly. Even Radio Free Asia is trying to silence the claim that the US is stealing Syrian oil. That's how bad things are in Syria.
Why does China deserve critical support but Rojava doesn't?
China isn’t being funded and supplied by US forces to guard their assets.
Are you denying that Rojava are being used as pawns by the US?
Neither is the SDF.
That's a very vague statement, virtually meaningless. "being used" - to what degree, to what effect? "pawns" - that implies that Kurds don't have any agency, kinda racist ngl.
Where are they? I'm genuinely asking. US has about 1000 troops in Syria.I know of Al-Tanf base and that's it.
Literally all the the kurdish controlled area.
Rojava has been reduced to oil field guards in US service.
You're saying the US is controlling all of north-eastern Syria with 1000 troops while the SDF is relegated to "oil field guards"?
Those statements show such ignorance of the situation I don't know where to begin.
Not all of Rojava is "oil fields", it's only the eastern part of Rojava that has any oil. None of the oil extracted from Syria actually goes to the US. In fact, oil extracted in Rojava was sold to the Syrian government, because the gas and oil pipelines lead to Damascus and to the Mediterranean. You know who has a large part of the contract to extract the oil in Rojava? Sinochem, a Chinese government company. Where are the accusations that China is engaging in imperialism in Syria?
It was in fact the US soldiers who are the "oil field guards", and the US soldiers are tasked with protecting the oil fields. The US has been doing it since the days of ISIS, because they wanted to deny oil access to them.
Few days ago SDF launched an attack on Deir Ez-Zour, the main "stronghold city" in the Deir Ezzour oil fields (under the control of SDF). I much rather that DAANES/SDF control the oil fields, than they be used to bolster HTS rule.