*advancing her career
https://bsky.app/profile/aoc.bsky.social/post/3ldhxclo4wk2c
This is about AOC losing her bid for the Oversight committee to a geriatric Dem lifer. Sure she has systematically shredded any last bit of credibility with her triangulation, but hey, at least all the 5D polítical chess is paying off! She's changing the system from the inside! It's working this time!
Girl, you abandoned any pretense of doing working-class mass politics when you decided to do insider politics! Why are you tweeting like Bernie Sanders circa 2012? There's no we! There's no mass movement behind you! It's just NYC DSA and some Warren libs (but I repeat myself)
Everyone is making fun of you (which I was tempted to as well) but I'll try to be genuine.
We shit on AOC because she is a perfect representation how trying to make change through official institutions like Congress is a dead end. AOC promised some radical ideas in her initial campaign and made it seem like she would be a genuine change from the Democratic party that only served the rich. But when Democrats got into power, she quickly folded into line and voted how the leadership wanted and defended the worst of the party (aka Biden). Of course she could have stuck to her guns (assuming she really believed in Democratic socialism), but that would have gotten her kicked from the party or not reelected.
So this is the eternal problem of trying to "push the Democrats left", if you play their game you are beholden to their rules. Either conform to the mass murdering US empire or get kicked out of power. We criticize AOC heavily because she has largely chosen to stay in power by conforming to the evil US empire. And it's even funnier when stuff like this happens and she isn't offered powerful committee positions even though she compromised her supposed ideals.
Na, I'm just enjoying trolling you twits as much as you are me. =)
Yes.
No, she didn't promise us shit. she said 'these are the things I will push for' and if you compare what shes put forward into congress and what she said they're actually similar.
You're making the classic mistake of blaming her for bills put forward by others. Personally when something is put forward that is better than the current situation I take it. you still moved the needle, maybe not as much as you'd like but you do it.
See above. again mistaking a vote for personal beliefs.
No, this is literally not what I'm telling you. I'm saying you're going after one of 3 people who are even remotely similar to your positions (aka: anticapitalist, pro workers). Its not the same as saying shes 'pushing dems to the left' fuck that. they're a lost cause as a party. What she does know how to do is manipulate a system, and shes good at it. thats why you idiots hate her so much, shes solo more effective than your entire community. Do you like what shes doing? nope. but shes doing it were you are powerless, she has a seat.
mmm, and yet you dont realize what she just demonstrated with that maneuver. sad really. AOC has probably done more to discredit the democrats than anyone in this thread just by fucking existing in the house. Shes literally doing exactly what you want to accomplish and you can't even see it.
Okay moron, give me one example of her being effective at doing anything but voting to fund genocide. You keep saying she's effective but she hasn't effected any change. All she's done is give pieces of shit like you an excuse to vote for genocide.
No, you idiots keep saying that. I'm saying shes the least harmful rep we have. very different statements. Its not my fault you lack basic read comprehension and confuse terms like 'accomplishments' and 'effectiveness'. First, effectiveness requires a benchmark and we won't agree on the benchmark metric so there is no point. secondly I'm not the one making claims about her that need refuting. they're all basic facts about her that are common knowledge. You however are, like 'she supports the genocide' she clearly doesn't. she literally voted against funding israel as a standalone bill. the omnibill version is not a vote for supporting genocide.
I can't help the fact you're misinformed. thats a you problem.
"I'm saying we should support the least harmful nazi we have" lmfao
You really are a liberal if you think you can point to accomplishments that are not effective. Words are more important than actions, right?
We understand that's what you're saying. We're saying "she's still absolute shit". Seems like you should wipe your own ass before you call out the stink in the room.
It's not our fault you struggle with basic communication. I don't know if this works in your high school debate club, but continually insisting that basic terms aren't comprehensible to you because you normally have a slightly different interpretation of them, so as to not have to engage in the actual argument, isn't really a good rhetorical strategy. It just makes you come off as someone who doesn't know what they're talking about.
You were asked what change she has effected - ie. What has she accomplished?
You haven't really made any claims apart from her being effective and accomplishing stuff, not bein supportive of a genocider and a lot of other claims, that's true. I guess if you require specificity you can say you haven't made any claims, but that's why you're being asked to be specific, so you can have an actual discussion.
You keep trying to tie this down to one single act for some reason, despite users referencing her entire tenure. I know being wrong can feel terrible, but it's actually a great opportunity to learn something! It might also improve your grades in high school, since changing your attitude about learning to something less defensive would probably make your teachers despise you less.
So it doesn't give money to Israel? Huh.
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Libs and casual racism, name a more iconic duo
https://www.shanghaidisneyresort.com/en/attractions/adventures-winnie-pooh/
this must mean some sort of animatronic bear based in Shanghai holds executive power in China
It took you this long to think of this response? SAD
You remind me of the adage about how compulsive gamblers are, as much as anything else, addicted to losing
People responding to your arguments is in fact not trolling. The fact you take critique as a meanspirited thing is a you-issue.
So if you look at the responses you've already gotten, you know that's a lie.
"Please don't blame her for things she votes on" and other silly things liberals say to defend genocidal warmongering union breakers.
And the day that something comes along that moves things forward, I'll be happy to move that needle. Until then I'll continue to not support genocide.
You've literally just talked about moving the needle. Which is it?
You've been shown a bunch of times that those are not her positions. Do better.
You seem to be stuck on "the dems". We are critiquing AOC and how she functions within the system.
Like how she helped crush strikes or like how she helped a genocide or like how she stopped giving a shit about border camps or etc?
You people always talk in vague terms because anything specific immediately makes it obvious what your actual politics are.