These statistics quantitatively express a significant shift in political mood and perspective that has occurred over just the last year, as the COVID-19 pandemic has ravaged the US and the world.
who woulda thought when you’re not a condescending dick head you convert more people. who woulda thought (yes i see the irony thats part of the joke tbh)
it makes me so sad when people are rude or mean to liberals who absolutely could be radicalized. do people really think they are being helpful? I understand the blue dog libs or psycho conservatives but alot of libs who offer misguided but still in the correct spirit ideas get demolished
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bullying only works on chuds or extreme neoliberals and it only works to clear the room and so they will shut up.
Liberalism is basically the standard ideology of most Americans. However a lot really don't truly believe in it and can be converted. You might just have to improvise with what you say.
Sorry to necropost, but I was searching Chapo and you seemed like a good person to ask: how does one learn to radicalize libs? I know one thing I need to do is read some more theory so I can better argue my points, but part of my problem is that I end up getting way too heated when I talk about this stuff. Which, I guess it should, but ranting and raving is not a very effective rhetorical strategy.
My reach is severely limited right now due to the current circumstances, but as a start, if you have any advice on getting through to PMC types I'd greatly appreciate it.
tbh what works for me is dropping things they agree with gradually because they understand we have shared values at least on some level (most sane people do) then you point out slowly and gradually each time you see liberals fuck it up.
Dont whip out theory where it’s unnatural. explain for example labor theory of value in some way thats normal for you and coworkers not clothes of linenen or whatever. Thats how I deal with PMCs and sure they wont be full blown radicals but chances are you can shift them a bit to notice when liberals fuck up and how your shared values aren’t being enacted.
thats what I do but im not organizer 😅😅😅😅
TLDR dont be weird become a person they would trust and befriend tbh :)
who woulda thought when you’re not a condescending dick head you convert more people. who woulda thought (yes i see the irony thats part of the joke tbh)
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it makes me so sad when people are rude or mean to liberals who absolutely could be radicalized. do people really think they are being helpful? I understand the blue dog libs or psycho conservatives but alot of libs who offer misguided but still in the correct spirit ideas get demolished
TLDR :
bullying only works on chuds or extreme neoliberals and it only works to clear the room and so they will shut up.
Liberalism is basically the standard ideology of most Americans. However a lot really don't truly believe in it and can be converted. You might just have to improvise with what you say.
Cultural hegemony does terrible things. A lot of americans view capitalism as the default of society and are indoctrinated from birth in school.
exactly!
Sorry to necropost, but I was searching Chapo and you seemed like a good person to ask: how does one learn to radicalize libs? I know one thing I need to do is read some more theory so I can better argue my points, but part of my problem is that I end up getting way too heated when I talk about this stuff. Which, I guess it should, but ranting and raving is not a very effective rhetorical strategy.
My reach is severely limited right now due to the current circumstances, but as a start, if you have any advice on getting through to PMC types I'd greatly appreciate it.
tbh what works for me is dropping things they agree with gradually because they understand we have shared values at least on some level (most sane people do) then you point out slowly and gradually each time you see liberals fuck it up.
Dont whip out theory where it’s unnatural. explain for example labor theory of value in some way thats normal for you and coworkers not clothes of linenen or whatever. Thats how I deal with PMCs and sure they wont be full blown radicals but chances are you can shift them a bit to notice when liberals fuck up and how your shared values aren’t being enacted.
thats what I do but im not organizer 😅😅😅😅
TLDR dont be weird become a person they would trust and befriend tbh :)
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