i wish no harm to american ruling class, my enemy is the american people

op admits it was a joke originally, but says after witnessing the contempt of the american people for gaza, is sad to say his joke was correct (unless i'm misreading this)

the user posting_forever writes "yeah well welcome to what happens when your country bombs and threatens half of the earth. feels pretty shitty, huh?"

barbarism critic continues their thread "If you have posted this as a joke that’s one thing, but there’s wayyyy too much of this sentiment expressed sincerely on here and as a signifier of being the “most radical”. It is not! It is poorly disguised misanthropy and nihilism!"

one person say that barbarism critic is "the brianna wu of 2025. Remember kids I called it"

i guess there is some very real perceived material interests of americans to continue the genocide in palestine, like the christian zionists, or the liberals who want to continue the american dominance via global hegemony, and the labor aristocrats in america who want the treats.

i was listening to rev left radio "The Long Transition Towards Socialism and the End of Capitalism" with Torkil Lauesen and, probably gonna butcher it - but my understanding is that as we enter a multipolar world, the americans will not be able to blatantly exploit the over-exploited nations (global south) leading to increasingly deteriorating conditions in the imperial core, which will set the grounds very clearly between socialism and barbarism?

and we are to organize and help alleviate the woes of the people which also serve as a way of building relations that lead to building power via organizations.

(iirc the bolsheviks has above ground orgs and underground orgs for the law breaking stuff)

eh i dunno just over analyzing what do you peeps think.

  • FuckyWucky [none/use name]
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    10 hours ago

    i used to be way more bitter about Americans and the west having access to covid vaccines and refusing to give it to the rest of the world, thinking they deserve covid. even then i thought pharma ceos should go into the woodchipper though.

    now i think American ignorance (and bigotry) comes from the political environment rather than anything 'intrinsic' about them.

    • OrionsMask [he/him, comrade/them]
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      29 minutes ago

      Okay, but where do we go from there? That political environment isn't going away, it's there by design, and soon their ignorance and bigotry fuels back into the machine that created it and the world suffers. People are genocided, people are conquered, people are displaced as their countries are coup'd and invaded. The ignorant and bigoted are there to tell you that it's right because it's being done by America and its interests.

      I believe we're long past the point where it matters whether it's intrinsic or not. The result is the same, because the masses do not have the power or will to break away from their political environment. And until they do, they're complicit.

    • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]
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      9 hours ago

      So you're saying human beings are products of their environment, and don't possess intrinsic properties based on which lines in the sand they happened to be born between? Absolutely wild!