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  • RuthBaderGonesburg [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I would say Biden winning Arizona and Trump winning Pennsylvania probably won’t happen.

    • RandomWords [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      trump is pretty likely to win pennsylvania. in 2016 polls had hillary up by like ten points.

      • PeterTheAverage [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/pa/pennsylvania_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5964.html

        Hillary was up 2 points, you're probably thinking of Wisconsin where she was up 6-7.

          • PeterTheAverage [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Less than 4, so splitting the difference is a margin of less than 3. So a similar polling error to 2016 still has Biden winning PA, while a similar polling error in WI means it goes to Trump again.

              • PeterTheAverage [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                What am I missing? Taking 538's margin and adding in the polling error is 4.4% in Trump's favor. Current polling margin in PA is 5.1 so the same error still has Biden winning.

                • RandomWords [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  i mean originally i was pointing out that numerous polls had clinton up like 10 points, not the aggregate score, and when i said split the difference i was just saying in general since you were looking at rcp and i was looking at 538, not to actually split the difference and apply the percentage points.

                  it's cool that you're looking at this mathematically, but as i live here i'm just letting you know there's no way biden takes pa.

                  • PeterTheAverage [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    but as i live here i’m just letting you know there’s no way biden takes pa.

                    Why's that?

                    • RandomWords [he/him]
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                      because outside of the major cities the entire state is a bunch of racist white people. trump signs litter every street. they still fly confederate flags and shit out here

                      • PeterTheAverage [he/him]
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                        4 years ago

                        Was that not the case four years ago? It's not like PA was a blowout, Trump won it by a hair. Do you not think it will be close again? What margin would you predict?

                        • RandomWords [he/him]
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                          4 years ago

                          it'll probably still only be a couple percentage points, but there's not like less trump people than there were, and fracking didn't really get mentioned 4 years ago. even though there's 0 chance biden does anything against fracking these people aren't even going to take a chance.

                          i'd probably say it's going to be like 52-48, with trump taking it for sure.