• RedCat@lemmygrad.ml
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      10 months ago

      "The USA are the worst. They lie, steal and murder to get what they want. I am so glad they are honest when it comes to their political rival though."

      • Tee@lemmygrad.ml
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        10 months ago

        very honest and democratic. well, democratic for the bourgeoisie through fascist coups. doesn't make it any less democratic. its true. what genocides? genocides? plural? what are you on about? define "settler". it doesn't mean shit. the soviets were the good guys? lol, lmao, even.

    • Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml
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      10 months ago

      They forgot to invoke the anti-China spell, so we have not been cast away yet. Really rookie mistake.

  • big_spoon@lemmygrad.ml
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    10 months ago

    i don't remember the last time that china destroyed a country using fake allegations of WMDs or using diplomats disguised as nurses to have a casus belli

    • JucheBot1988@lemmygrad.ml
      hexagon
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      10 months ago

      "They don't have to, because they do the same kind of thing internally" -- Anne Applebaum or Simon Seabag Montefiore (probably, I'm not going to dig through a pedophile tome like Bloodlands)

  • angrytoadnoises@lemmygrad.ml
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    10 months ago

    that's exactly right you fucken smooth brain, maybe you could consider the USA with the same critical lens you consider your 'bad guy countries'

  • su25@lemmygrad.ml
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    10 months ago

    "i agree usa bad, but i also want the usa to be unopposed on the world stage and continue using its hegemony to perpetuate genocide" is crazy

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    10 months ago

    For any tankies here: yes, USA bad and genocidal, I agree. That's why I support them unquestionably. Because I too am bad and genocidal.

  • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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    10 months ago

    "The US is bad, but we can just accept everything they say about China uncritically. They are 100% trustworthy when it comes to their enemies."

  • eXAt [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    People who agree 'both sides are bad' never really feel that the US (or whatever their side is) is actually bad. I know a bunch of people have like a visceral reaction in regards to China, the DPRK, etc that of course is never replicated for the other bad, even if they claim they are equal evils or whatever.

    • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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      10 months ago

      meanwhile i have trouble functioning in society in part because i understand how profoundly evil this country is

    • theblueredditrefugee@lemmygrad.ml
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      10 months ago

      Idk, I feel like there are a lot of anarchists that honestly believe that both sides are bad - i.e. they've radicalized left without learning to reject the capitalist propaganda machine

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    10 months ago

    They never actually believe the USA is bad. Ask them to call the USA authoritarian. They won't.

    In the same breath as denouncing foreign countries as doing socialism incorrectly, these American liberals will instead praise their own country as democratic, or at the very least, they'll avoid using words like tyrannical, totalitarian, dictatorship, etc. Their true hatred is reserved for foreigners.

    • JucheBot1988@lemmygrad.ml
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      10 months ago

      Ultras as well. I'm all but convinced that ultraleftism is a type of adventurism from (often rightly) disillusioned liberals. He was bigger a few years back than he is now, but Jason Unruhe is a prime example of that kind of thing.

  • Catradora-Stalinism☭@lemmygrad.ml
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    10 months ago

    Okay but after reading about how bad the USA was from books like Jakarta Method, Killing Hope, Kill Everything that moves, Triumph of Evil, etc. one must come to the conclusion that the US is the great satan.

        • Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml
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          10 months ago

          When the relationships between domestic bourgeoisie and the people are handled well, they may not be antagonistic in nature and may be resolved through peaceful means. This is not true for imperialistic bourgeoisie.

          Literally mao.

      • moffintosh@lemmygrad.ml
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        10 months ago

        Emacting ML

        One doesn't practice socialism by calling their bourgies "the people's billionares" or by making the goverment do stuff. China has a private market, wage labour is dominant and their monopolies actively export capital.

        They're a social democracy larping as communists

        • ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml
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          10 months ago

          You should try reading marx and understanding what 'socialist devolopment' is before running your mouth and saying a bunch of shit you have 0 clue about.

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          10 months ago

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          • JucheBot1988@lemmygrad.ml
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            10 months ago

            As far as I can tell, the source is dumb anarchists vs. Caleb Maupin c. 2021. I never heard it prior to that.

            Specifically, it seems to originate in a video he made called "Socialist Billionaires? YES! (Let me explain...)" It was a fairly run-of-the-mill explanation, with a click-baity title, of why China has a market sector. Of course, rather than engage in any one of the many legitimate criticisms you could make of Caleb Maupin, the terminally online anarchist crowed focused on the title alone, and were spamming "the people's billionaires" all over the place for months afterward. It's the same mindset that finds "borger king" funny, and it probably won the guy more followers than he lost.

            The phrase has been living on "left" social media ever since.