Honestly, this is pretty bad. There's just a lot of half-digested truths that's barely understandable to someone who doesn't already know what they're trying to say. For one, it doesn't clearly go over why Taiwanese separatism is reactionary (basically, all the ringleaders and intellectual leaders have roots with fascist collaborators during WWII) while at the same time conflating the DPP with WWII era fascist collaborators. Yes, Tsai Ing-Wen's father was a fascist collaborator and traitor who fixed Zeros during WWII, but the actual party was founded in the mid 80s because the KMT had a one-party military dictatorship until then. I'll go over some things I find especially erroneous:
State of Wu documents from 230 BC show friendly relations between China and Taiwan;
China during the Warring States period was a series of warring states. The state of Wu was conquered by the state of Yue, which was then conquered by the state of Chu, which was then conquered by the state of Qin. My point is that it doesn't really mean much.
the Lui Dynasty, ~170 years later, traded with Taiwan extensively (Taiwan by 400 BC had begun its metal age) and played a role in its development.
There's no "Lui dynasty." Chronologically speaking, there's the Han dynasty with the ruling family Liu. And this is just trade. The Han dynasty traded with plenty of polities, so this also doesn't mean much.
The Song and Yuan dynasties beginning in ~960 set up administrative bodies to gain authority within Taiwan, at which point it was jointly governed.
Southern Song established military outposts on the Penghu islands, which is currently administered by the ROC. But the Penghu islands aren't Taiwan. To say that the Penghu islands are Taiwan is to be in complete agreement with Taiwanese separatism because Taiwan is understood by the PRC and ROC to be the name of an island, no more and no less. It's Taiwanese separatists who would say the Penghu islands and Kinmen islands form a part of Taiwan because they understand Taiwan to be a republic that claims sovereignty over various islands like Taiwan island, Penghu islands, and Kinmen islands.
Taiwan is still an inseparable part of China, agreed upon in the majority by the people of Taiwan and agreed upon in the National People’s Congress by Taiwan’s government in 1987 and 2005; Taiwan’s airline is China Airlines, Taiwan’s banking is China Trust, Taiwan’s oil is China Petroleum, Taiwan’s communications are China Telecom; Taiwan speaks Chinese and has the same dialect as across the strait
This is terrible and unconvincing. Meanwhile, the ROC constitution is right there. You can just point to the preamble of the ROC constitution where it states:
The National Assembly of the Republic of China, by virtue of the mandate received from the whole body of citizens, in accordance with the teachings bequeathed by Dr. Sun Yat-sen in founding the Republic of China, and in order to consolidate the authority of the State, safeguard the rights of the people, ensure social tranquillity, and promote the welfare of the people, do hereby establish this Constitution, to be promulgated throughout the country for faithful and perpetual observance by all.
Lain "State of Wu documents from 230 BC show friendly relations between China and Taiwan"
WP: "The earliest references to this effect are to be found, among others, in Seaboard Geographic Gazetteer compiled in the year 230 by Shen Ying of the State of Wu during the Three Kingdoms Period. The royal court of the Sui Dynasty had on three occasions sent troops to Taiwan, called Liuqiu at that time.”
Oh, it's that Wu. Sun Wu is completely different from the state of Wu, which is a ducal state during the Zhou dynasty. And identifying Liuqiu as Taiwan is not wrong per se since Taiwan was known as Liuqiu at various stages of history but pretty iffy since Liuqiu is what Okinawans call the Ryukyu islands. From here, 琉球民族 is romanized as Ruuchuu minzuku in Okinawan and Liuqiu minzu in Mandarin. The Ryukyu kingdom is Liuqiu guo in Mandarin although the kingdom apparently got the name because the Ming emperor bestowed the title King of Liuqiu on the ruler of the kingdom. It's complicated.
You say that administrative bodies were only set up in the Penghu Islands, but the white paper reads: “Starting from the Song and Yuan dynasties, the imperial central governments of China all set up administrative bodies to exercise jurisdiction over Penghu and Taiwan."
I checked a bunch of Chinese maps on Southern Song and the Yuan dynasty. None of the Southern Song maps include Taiwan and most of the Yuan dynasty maps don't include Taiwan either. There's some maps like these where they just label the entire Mongol empire as the Yuan dynasty. This actually makes de jure sense since the entire Mongol empire was officially called the Yuan dynasty. But even these maps exclude Taiwan. I get why those maps wouldn't include the Penghu islands since they're so small anyways, but to me, the fact that they don't include Taiwan means that most likely, Southern Song/Yuan didn't administer Taiwan on a meaningful level.
Why? I also don’t get how your quote demonstrates anything.
My point is about how having an airline in Taiwan called Chinese Airlines isn't convincing while the ROC constitution which only mentions Taiwan by name once makes a far stronger case that Taiwan is just the name of an island while the government still politically sees itself as China. I just see "well, they call random stuff Chinese instead of Taiwanese" the flip side of Taiwanese separatists soyfacing that the ROC passport has Taiwan in bigger letters than the Republic of China, never mind that the Chinese characters still say Republic of China.
Honestly, this is pretty bad. There's just a lot of half-digested truths that's barely understandable to someone who doesn't already know what they're trying to say. For one, it doesn't clearly go over why Taiwanese separatism is reactionary (basically, all the ringleaders and intellectual leaders have roots with fascist collaborators during WWII) while at the same time conflating the DPP with WWII era fascist collaborators. Yes, Tsai Ing-Wen's father was a fascist collaborator and traitor who fixed Zeros during WWII, but the actual party was founded in the mid 80s because the KMT had a one-party military dictatorship until then. I'll go over some things I find especially erroneous:
China during the Warring States period was a series of warring states. The state of Wu was conquered by the state of Yue, which was then conquered by the state of Chu, which was then conquered by the state of Qin. My point is that it doesn't really mean much.
There's no "Lui dynasty." Chronologically speaking, there's the Han dynasty with the ruling family Liu. And this is just trade. The Han dynasty traded with plenty of polities, so this also doesn't mean much.
Southern Song established military outposts on the Penghu islands, which is currently administered by the ROC. But the Penghu islands aren't Taiwan. To say that the Penghu islands are Taiwan is to be in complete agreement with Taiwanese separatism because Taiwan is understood by the PRC and ROC to be the name of an island, no more and no less. It's Taiwanese separatists who would say the Penghu islands and Kinmen islands form a part of Taiwan because they understand Taiwan to be a republic that claims sovereignty over various islands like Taiwan island, Penghu islands, and Kinmen islands.
This is terrible and unconvincing. Meanwhile, the ROC constitution is right there. You can just point to the preamble of the ROC constitution where it states:
or how the original constitution doesn't have the word "Taiwan" at all and how the addition articles only mentions "Taiwan" once. They dance around the issue by using the term "free area" of the ROC.
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Oh, it's that Wu. Sun Wu is completely different from the state of Wu, which is a ducal state during the Zhou dynasty. And identifying Liuqiu as Taiwan is not wrong per se since Taiwan was known as Liuqiu at various stages of history but pretty iffy since Liuqiu is what Okinawans call the Ryukyu islands. From here, 琉球民族 is romanized as Ruuchuu minzuku in Okinawan and Liuqiu minzu in Mandarin. The Ryukyu kingdom is Liuqiu guo in Mandarin although the kingdom apparently got the name because the Ming emperor bestowed the title King of Liuqiu on the ruler of the kingdom. It's complicated.
I checked a bunch of Chinese maps on Southern Song and the Yuan dynasty. None of the Southern Song maps include Taiwan and most of the Yuan dynasty maps don't include Taiwan either. There's some maps like these where they just label the entire Mongol empire as the Yuan dynasty. This actually makes de jure sense since the entire Mongol empire was officially called the Yuan dynasty. But even these maps exclude Taiwan. I get why those maps wouldn't include the Penghu islands since they're so small anyways, but to me, the fact that they don't include Taiwan means that most likely, Southern Song/Yuan didn't administer Taiwan on a meaningful level.
My point is about how having an airline in Taiwan called Chinese Airlines isn't convincing while the ROC constitution which only mentions Taiwan by name once makes a far stronger case that Taiwan is just the name of an island while the government still politically sees itself as China. I just see "well, they call random stuff Chinese instead of Taiwanese" the flip side of Taiwanese separatists soyfacing that the ROC passport has Taiwan in bigger letters than the Republic of China, never mind that the Chinese characters still say Republic of China.
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