I mean, not that I want to see a lot of conflict or violence or anything like that (not that I'm not expecting a whole bunch of new right-wing stochastic terror all over the place), but I am just really curious about what's gonna happen after the election.

Everyone here knows all those "if they replace RBG we riot" posts are a bunch of performative liberal bullshit, but what happens if..... well you know (electoralism) with the election. Will the Biden phonebankers actually drive out to D.C. to protest? If the supreme court hands it to Trump even if Biden wins (fuck both of them) the popular vote by millions, will the Biden phonebankers storm the Whithouse lawn and get cut down by secret service machine gun fire??? It so weird!!! It's a total toss up, not just in terms of the winner for various fucking reasons, but what happens after, and the effects that reverberate for far longer after that.

...Especially considering the fact that the major players decided marginalized people, actual leftists, millennials, zoomers, etc., have no stake whatsoever in whatever happens now, months ago -- since it's totally out of our hands -- it's almost kind of "exciting" to see what happens (maybe that's the wrong word, "salacious" feels more accurate). It's kind of hard to explain.

I mean, this shit definitely DOES NOT stop with the election. People are hurting. They have been for decades. Millions more now unemployed and evicted. And either, way help is probably not coming from Washington. Maybe nothing happens or changes at all. ...You could even consider THAT to be an interesting outcome. Literally anything could happen, and it feels like we will see in like 3 days.

Anyway just thinking out loud while pretty drunk for like the 10th time in 12 days. Hopefully this take isn't too hot or whatever if you actually read through all this you're a madperson lol

  • star_wraith [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I get the argument that libs will roll over if Trump blatantly steals an election but idk... the hate they feel towards Trump is pretty damn real. We correctly point out that they only see Trump as the problem and not the underlying causes... but what they feel towards Trump is still genuine. So I actually think libs and frankly a lot of normal people could go beyond protesting if there's an obvious theft of the election by Trump + courts + state legislatures. What that looks like is pretty unclear to me. I don't think the military will do anything. My best guess is that in California and California alone there will be a push to secede, ultimately leading to it being a ballot measure in November 2021. A poll around when Trump was inaugurated had support for secession at 32%. Can't imagine that number has done anything other than go up since then. And a major election theft i.e. coup could push that over 50%. And I can see libs all over America supporting it as a sort of catharsis. Whether or not it would be successful, no idea. That's too much to speculate on. But I could see it become a very real issue.

    • Des [she/her, they/them]
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      4 years ago

      there's also always the chance a sedate 100k + march in D.C. (assuming a blatent election steal that riles up tons of libs) ends up in a Kent State situation with either right wing terrorists lighting the spark or armed cops terrified of being overwhelmed by a stampede (ok yes also right wing terrorists i know). Shooting starts, regular lib types (maybe led by famous people or Obama or something) get mowed down and the spark ignites. But you are right because the hatred of Trump is much more real and viseral now that he's actually done shit vs just being an uncouth asshole saying the quiet things out loud. Thousands of deaths are directly the result of his insanity vs just being a dick running against a very hated woman.