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  • Farman [any]
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    10 months ago

    Here is an estimate for ukraine. https://www.noahsnewsletter.com/p/how-many-people-have-died-in-ukraine

    Russia should be 1:4 or 1:5 based on artillery ratios.

    • AOCapitulator [they/them]
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      10 months ago

      Overall, the analysis suggests that up to 188,000 Ukrainian soldiers and civilians may have died in the war – though this figure is likely to be an overestimate, since people who died of Covid likely had fewer friends than those who’ve died in the war

      The fuck? How does that assumption track at ALL? Lmfao

      You died of covid? Probably a friendless loser

      • DerEwigeAtheist [she/her, comrade/them]
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        10 months ago

        Also it isn't like people don't die more often from disease during war. So secondary deaths like that are not even counted here. It's just "How many people do you know that died in the war"(at least in the english translation"

      • Farman [any]
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        10 months ago

        It asumes people that died of covid are older. So their friends are more likley to be already dead or also died of covid.

    • Ambiwar [any]
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      10 months ago

      Author self identifies as a "moderate conservative". Bad source.

      • Farman [any]
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        10 months ago

        But he posts the metodology and it seems ok. There is always some error. And we can never be sure in these cases but 190k seem more resonable than the 70k nato is claiming.

        • Ambiwar [any]
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          10 months ago

          The methodology is completely pulled out of his ass.

          There's a lot wrong with it but the main thing is using linear regression for "do you know someone who has died of X?" This is cannot be a linear relationship. As the number of casualties goes up, the % of people who know a casualty logarithmically approaches 100%.

          This means the % of people who know a casualty will rise dramatically at first, and taper off. It also means it's not a good indicator for actual deaths.

          • Farman [any]
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            10 months ago

            Disregard my previous post. You are completly rigth. I apologise for psting it. I just found an estimate that seemed plausible and had an explanation without cheking it properly. I have now read the rest of that guys posts and i realize i look like a cretin promoting him.

            • Ambiwar [any]
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              10 months ago

              No need to apologize. Just remember to meet independent media with the same level of skepticism as main stream media.

          • Farman [any]
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            10 months ago

            Thats a hood point. I did not think of that. Sorry. I guess there arent enough datapoints for a logarithmic regresion.

            The question is if at 60% there is enough deviation from the linear function? As more people die. Intervewed people would know more than 1 victim leading to undercounting. Is this efect enough to counteract the logarithmic trend?