• Stamets [Mirror]@startrek.website
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    10 months ago

    I'm first in line. Fixes all my problems.

    • Physical Disability? Not anymore as the nanites fix shit and build implants to compensate.

    • Limited Resources? Nope. Don't gotta worry about whether I'd get to the food bank in time or what bills to pay now!

    • Loneliness? Literally impossible

    • Mental Health? No mental left to health.

    SIGN ME UP SIR.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      The only downside, really, is the retconned-in CEO with all that individuality at the top of the otherwise equal system. When she started blowing up cubes just to flex on her enemies, that was a real porky-happy moment.

    • nxdefiant@startrek.website
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      10 months ago

      Alternatively: You have no distinctiveness that will augment our own, so we're going to liquefy you and feed you to the childborgs.

  • GreenMario@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    The Earth First faction would totally gaslight everyone about the existence of the Borg.

    The Borg?! Ha! Yet another radical leftist Federation boogeyman! I'll bet credits to navy beans that it's just an excuse to expand Starfleet and take away your phasers! Wolf 359 was an inside job! But in case you do get infected with nanoprobes be sure to buy my Ivermectin^TM brand purity pills, only 4 bars of Gold Pressed Latinum!

    • Plibbert@lemmy.ml
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      10 months ago

      Lol that just made me realize the terrorist group from enterprise was called Terra Prime. Damnit how did I not see it!

  • HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    I would absolutely line up to be assimilated. I'd be guaranteed a job that mattered, I'd always be with family and friends, I'd be part of a group that was always working towards a common goal, and I'd be happy; the borg that are disconnected from the collective are clearly deeply distressed by the experience. Plus, I'd be stronger and more capable as a borg than I can even imagine right now.

    As long as people are making the choice to join the collective, why is it anyone else's business?

    • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      That is the gimmick of the borg. Depending on the writer it is half about the horrors of comunism and the other part is about the horror of transhumanism. Both are rad though so hell yeah

      • HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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        10 months ago

        For a solid 25+ years, I've been saying that the second it's viable, I would happily replace all of my meat with machine. When you fuck your back up as an organic, congrats, now you get to have pain for the rest of your life. As a cyborg? Just replace the damaged part.

      • Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
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        10 months ago

        laughs in socialist furry

        Oh no, they've come to take away my precious humanity and capitalism, whatever shall I do?

  • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    All the borg say they prefer borg at what point do we have to just listen to them and admit we are being rascist about it? In several episodes it is shown and being a pleasant experience of I recall correctly.

    • Noughmad@programming.dev
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      10 months ago

      It's all Starfleet's fault, the Federation has expanded too much and has encircled Borg space for decades. Plus the Borg are good for making a multipolar galaxy, we should support them.

      • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        I was more talking about the borg themselves reporting being happy but this did bring that weird rascist tone to it that I was talking about.

        • nxdefiant@startrek.website
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          10 months ago

          I can't recall anyone that was recovered from being a Borg begging to go back. In fact quite the opposite.

          It wasn't like the Nexus where everyone agreed it was better even after the fact.

          • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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            10 months ago

            Seven of nine, Heugh, the kids, I seem to Recall Picard saying it was p nice just not for him. I know everyone reported not liking thr process but the actual state of it has been reported as being mostly pleasant but It has been a while since I seen the episodes.

            • nxdefiant@startrek.website
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              10 months ago

              Yeah, they all speak of "oneness", but again, no one is falling over themselves to get reassimilated.

              Even Hugh accepted death over it.

              And that's taking into account that the nanites literally rewrite their brain to make them feel that way.

              • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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                10 months ago

                Brainwashing is an orientalist trope so I feel like we are onto something there.

                I thought Hugh was depressed about being ripped out of his collective, scared of being infected with a logic virus.

    • DroneRights [it/its]
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      10 months ago

      Also Janeway relentlessly misgendered Seven of Nine until it assimilated into her crew

  • Rom [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    If it means not having to deal with capitalism anymore I'd get in line too tbh.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      10 months ago
      • Free healthcare

      • Free public housing

      • No debt

      • Spend all your days cruising the galaxy with your buds, looking for more people who want to join the party

      Yeah, I'm not clear what's on this list that I'm not supposed to like.

      • Rom [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        And everyone shares thoughts instantly so you just know their meme culture is off the charts.

    • Noughmad@programming.dev
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      10 months ago

      The Federation doesn't have capitalism either (well, again this depends on the writer, but Picard was quite clear about it in one episode).

  • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    I don't want any kind of computer in my body for the simple reason I refuse to have my internal organs run on windows

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        better but computers in general aren't very good at things. They're great if you want to do a lot of calculations really fast but they just don't have the reliability I look for in an internal organ

        also some teenager would hack into me and force me to dance or something

        • DroneRights [it/its]
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          10 months ago

          There's a game about that. It's called Exapunks. You play as an anarchist hacker who is slowly dying to a degenerative disease that turns your flesh into electronics. The medicine to keep your disease from progressing costs 300 dollars a day, so you learn how to hack from a zine and then start making money for your medicine and taking down capitalism. At various points you have to use your hacking skills to reprogram your nerves so your body will continue to function. Send a virus to tell your heart to beat and so forth. The gameplay is based on a modified version of assembly and actual programming puzzles that make sense in the context of the cyberpunk world.

  • ToxicDivinity [comrade/them]
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    10 months ago

    having your individualness absorbed into a collective consciousness is some peoples idea of heaven

    • muddi [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      I've seen this type of comment in scifi threads. It was about that one planet-consciousness in the Foundation series, some guy thought it would be hell to lose his individuality. But I think that people are confusing privacy or autonomy with individuality.

      Also the fact that individuality is already illusory to begin with -- we are social animals, and if we truly tried to be absolutely individual, we'd end up as a feral child or some bizarre hermit. And ironically we live in an age where we are so alienated not just from others but our own selves, and our very species-essence as well

      • DroneRights [it/its]
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        10 months ago

        Also society relentlessly bullies neurodivergent people with whom they have difficulty empathizing. Neurotypicals already have a weak hivemind and they attack anyone who can't or won't join it. Neurotypicals are the borg, except not communist. They're the Borg but worse.

  • Goldmaster@lemmy.ml
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    10 months ago

    Why did the borg go back in time to the 2060s? Why not go back in time 2023, when people are dealing with the cost of living and lack or access to basic essentials. The borg would enslave those they want to and prevent first contact.