True that. Fingers crossed this looks more like the dissolution of the USSR than actual Balkanization, but either way the sooner US is gone (or completely irrelevant, which I think is more likely) the better.
Well I mean in terms of how the country falls apart (peacefully and bureaucratically instead of a huge civil war), not what happens afterwards. The USSR was good and the post-Soviet states are bad; the US is bad, but potentially some of the post-US states could be goodish (relatively).
im not going to sit here and shit on china but i will tell you that there is basically no path to citizenship there and that means you will not be able to do a TON of shit, like you will be extremely hamstrung trying to live there as a non-citizen full-on expat
and i know i know you can link me to their webpages on how to become a citizen and so on but trust me, they aint going to approve little people like us. basically nobody becomes a citizen of china without some kind of very special circumstance (be super rich)
the short story is that a ton of shit in china is done through wechat and the services it connects and to have a proper account you need citizenship because you get a sort of social security number that gets linked to your account
this basically means you can order stuff online, pay at restaurants, order a cab and so forth. the stuff you can do with it is amazing and what you can do without it is diminishing. so without the ability to use this you are hamstrung. you also cannot open a bank account. you cannot buy a home. there is more but thats the basics of it. you can google expats who have lived in china for a time and most of them end up marrying a chinese spouse and then all this gets done under their spouse's name. thing is, even if you marry a chinese spouse, you will still never be granted citizenship. it just becomes easier to stay in china, like get approval
Low voltage cabling work (network infrastructure, commercial A/V, CCTV etc). My job isn't unskilled but you can realistically train someone in like 2 years to have my skill set lol. I think the union does a 3 yr apprenticeship. Plus, everything would be in chinese. Like all software and electronic tools.
Yeah. Like I make okay money, definitely enough to support a single adult but not enough to actually buy a house or retire. I honestly dream of moving to China. It's the only thing I'd give up weed for
oh damn I keep forgetting I wouldn't be able to get weed there
If I weren't planning to have a kid next year (because it's my belief we need more people to suffer through living in America) I'd go for 6-12 months at least.
True that. Fingers crossed this looks more like the dissolution of the USSR than actual Balkanization, but either way the sooner US is gone (or completely irrelevant, which I think is more likely) the better.
when the ussr collapsed 10 million died due to the collapse of services as they were privatized
Well I mean in terms of how the country falls apart (peacefully and bureaucratically instead of a huge civil war), not what happens afterwards. The USSR was good and the post-Soviet states are bad; the US is bad, but potentially some of the post-US states could be goodish (relatively).
i respect the optimism
a better world is possible
Everyone should just move to China tbh
im not going to sit here and shit on china but i will tell you that there is basically no path to citizenship there and that means you will not be able to do a TON of shit, like you will be extremely hamstrung trying to live there as a non-citizen full-on expat
and i know i know you can link me to their webpages on how to become a citizen and so on but trust me, they aint going to approve little people like us. basically nobody becomes a citizen of china without some kind of very special circumstance (be super rich)
In what way would a non-citizen be hamstrung?
the short story is that a ton of shit in china is done through wechat and the services it connects and to have a proper account you need citizenship because you get a sort of social security number that gets linked to your account
this basically means you can order stuff online, pay at restaurants, order a cab and so forth. the stuff you can do with it is amazing and what you can do without it is diminishing. so without the ability to use this you are hamstrung. you also cannot open a bank account. you cannot buy a home. there is more but thats the basics of it. you can google expats who have lived in china for a time and most of them end up marrying a chinese spouse and then all this gets done under their spouse's name. thing is, even if you marry a chinese spouse, you will still never be granted citizenship. it just becomes easier to stay in china, like get approval
Interesting and disappointing but I'd probably still do it if not for my family situation
ive looked into this and given it some consideration
honestly a better leftist friendly country for expats is vietnam
Ah you know what, I bet you're right. I'd rather be a Chinese citizen but as an expat Vietnam is the way to go. My wife actually has family there....
I don't think they need a lot of people with my skill set lol
What do you do? I'm a trained ESL teacher so I could go real easy but I got a wife and cats.
Cats can learn Mandarin no problem.
My wife says my one cat is cute enough to be a Chinese celebrity and she's probably right
Low voltage cabling work (network infrastructure, commercial A/V, CCTV etc). My job isn't unskilled but you can realistically train someone in like 2 years to have my skill set lol. I think the union does a 3 yr apprenticeship. Plus, everything would be in chinese. Like all software and electronic tools.
Well at least you got a union job! I'm stuck here without even that.
alternatively: lEarN MaNdArIn
I don't have a union job lol I was just giving a frame of reference for barriers to entry since I never did a formal training program :angery:
ah damn, well I suppose that's how things go in The Worst Country On Earth
Yeah. Like I make okay money, definitely enough to support a single adult but not enough to actually buy a house or retire. I honestly dream of moving to China. It's the only thing I'd give up weed for
oh damn I keep forgetting I wouldn't be able to get weed there
If I weren't planning to have a kid next year (because it's my belief we need more people to suffer through living in America) I'd go for 6-12 months at least.
North Korea, then?
I support the DPRK against imperialism but I do not think I would like to live there, especially compared to China