Something that’s been really getting under my skin lately is the way in which people go about defending abortion. Whenever I see someone argue with a anti-choice person, they always blindly skip over the underlying ideology in favor of throwing out scenarios they think the anti-choice person simply can’t disagree with allowing abortions in. Specifically, they bring up rape and incest as these examples. Why?
Because these are instances where the pregnancy isn’t the AFAB person’s “fault”. Do you see what I’m getting at? People are just tacitly going along with the idea that an AFAB person who is “irresponsible enough to get themselves pregnant” deserves to have their body repurposed and utilized as a commodity completely against their will for the crime of having sex. Just completely glossing over the blatantly fascistic idea that having your humanity, autonomy, and flesh constantly under threat of being ripped from you is a totally acceptable punishment for impurity and sexual deviancy.
Being anti-choice is a completely unacceptable position in all cases and Liberal’s tendencies to ignore the horrific implications of ideas like this in favor of “not furthering the divide/not falling for tribalism” is just another instance where Libs normalize and Uncritically propagate fascist talking points without even realizing it.
First post, sorry if this isn’t supposed to be here or is generally low quality/obvious.
Definitely, thank you for expanding on what I wrote, I’m still getting used to this so my ideas might be a bit half-baked lol.
I worry if even having a dialog with staunch liberals is even a good idea. There are infinitely more libs than leftists and they’re ability to drown us out simply due to sheer numbers, inevitably warping the original context of our messages, is really worrisome. Even when they’re well meaning, they completely AstroTurf our movements and give right wingers an excuse to caricature our views as nonsensical since they’re fundamentally incompatible with the current neoliberal model libs are completely uncritical of. :/
your ideas are solid, and not inarticulate.
and yeah. I never associate with libs, and I never try to seem 'reasonable' to them. they're fucking fasch trash with better PR. which sounds but they're responsible for so much shit, and even more just by saturating society and normalizing that shit. and this? this is what a half baked thought looks like.