• UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Yeah, but like, they are their worst countrymen. Nazis and such. No one in the war stands to win anything. They will still pay their landlords and the corrupt banks for the right to live in now freshly burned down houses. Wages will stay super low, the wartime reduction becoming a reconstruction reduction whenever it ends. Anyone from Ukraine who is able to escape the nazis ought to defect to Russia where they would be taken care of a little better.

    • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah, but like, they are their worst countrymen. Nazis and such.

      Regular people are being drafted, it's not just Nazis dying.

    • boredtortoise@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      Hopping from a nation which employs fascist militia to a fascist-governed one isn't a solution to anything. All fascists involved suck shit but sheesh, let's not hope for a worse outcome

        • barsoap@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          Like the Baltics post fall of the Soviet Union: Beeline for EU membership. Also Zelensky already said that Ukraine is willing to let go of Belgorod in exchange for NATO membership.

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            1 year ago

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            • barsoap@lemm.ee
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              1 year ago

              And I was parroting it.

              But I wouldn't be surprised if Ukraine at some point occupies some fields somewhere just to make sure that whoever's going to be in power after Putin will be disposed is going to sit down and talk reparations etc.

              • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]
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                1 year ago

                But I wouldn't be surprised if Ukraine at some point occupies some fields somewhere just to make sure that whoever's going to be in power after Putin will be disposed is going to sit down and talk reparations etc.

                what kind of drugs are you on

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          • Blursty@lemmy.ml
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            1 year ago

            They can fuck off. Europeans are already paying through the nose for America's terrorist attack on our infrastructure. Paying for America's latest war is not going to happen.

      • duderium [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Hopping from a nation which employs fascist militia to a fascist-governed one isn't a solution to anything. All fascists involved suck shit but sheesh, let's not hope for a worse outcome

        Hopping from a country in which Nazism is official policy to one in which Nazism is outlawed. It really is exactly the same, which is why the people who say this always make excuses for Ukraine and the fascist dictatorship masquerading as democracy which is the USA.

          • duderium [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            There’s a recent story about Russia’s rehabilitation of Nazism law here:

            https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65024254

            It was implemented years ago, at which time the American corporate press did quite a lot of hand-wringing over protecting Nazis’ right to openly plan the extermination of Jews like me. When your own media sources are defending Nazism, maybe it’s time for a little self-examination and reflection?

              • duderium [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                I'm not an Orlov expert, but it sounds to me like he's aligning with the West, which means aligning with Nazis. My point is that there is a law in Russia which says that you cannot rehabilitate Nazism. Though this law and its enforcement is imperfect, it is significant that such a law even exists, since we know that something like this could never exist in Ukraine or in the USA, since Nazism is so profoundly pervasive in these places.