• usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    but the Ukrainians have developed the ability to do so on their own

    no they haven't they're using artilery equipment we gave them.

    • GivingEuropeASpook [they/them, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      no they haven't they're using artilery equipment we gave them.

      Don't blatantly lie.

      https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-weapons-can-hit-russia-targets-430-miles-away-zelenskyy-2023-9 https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-develops-weapon-zelenskyy-says-1.6953132

      So, if you wanna say "oh secretly it was still the US that supplied the drones or whatever", extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I thought you were talking about artillery. Those drones are just repurposed consumer drones fitted with explosives they aren't on the scale needed to make a major difference

        • GivingEuropeASpook [they/them, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          Nope. Just to be sure I went back and checked my initial wording, and I can see why you thought I meant artillery. I should have specified that they are using their own domestically developed military equipment to strike targets within Russia, which could theoretically allow them plausible deniability to then use a couple of Western-supplied artillery, assuming they could do it in such a way that Russia wouldn't be able to tell if it was a drone, IED, or proper artillery.

      • Staines [he/him, they/them]
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        1 year ago

        These weapons are the kind of thing the Ukrainians have developed to "retaliate" against random civilian housing blocks whenever Russia craters a command center. They're basically modern V1/V2 rockets "This will terrify the russian population into submission!!"