EDIT: no, I don't sympathize with nazis (neither I sympathize with those who call everyone nazi when they're losing an argument ;)

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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    1 year ago

    My god he can't read a graph. How has our educational system been allowed to fail for this long?

    I'm not committed at all to China as the salvation of the communist project, but it's exactly this sort of self-imposed illiteracy and ignorance, and nearly religious faith in the inferiority and duplicity of The Orient that makes me default to distrusting anything negative a cracker says about it.

    • mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de
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      1 year ago

      Comrade, I also blindly trust any graph as dear leader would have it.

      https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Trump_holding_altered_Dorian_forecast_map.png/800px-Trump_holding_altered_Dorian_forecast_map.png

      • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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        1 year ago

        let's skip to the end of the discussion: I say "that's not anything like what I said." you say "yes but you believe those statistics are true???" I say "do you have any good evidence that they're fabricated, and that the life expectancy in China is actually still hovering around 40?" you beg the question, possibly implying that Chinese people are inherently untrustworthy, and accuse me of supporting genocide. There is nothing I can say to you that will instill an ounce of critical thinking ability in you.

        wall-talk

        • mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de
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          1 year ago

          I mean all Hexbear links are essentially the Pravda. It doesn't help when you guys treat Wikipedia like it's somehow the same as conservapedia.com

          • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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            1 year ago

            I don't think census data compiled and verified by the UN DESA is Pravda, a publication which does not exist anymore. I quite like Wikipedia and I think it's a very good way to get a quick introductory understanding of a topic which you've just learned about. In this case it prints a similar graph citing the same data, so I don't know why you would mention it to support your strange argument that China's life expectancy has not significantly improved under communism.

            It's not even that outrageous a thing to believe, but you demand that I presume it false because believing that China is a normal country opens the door to believing a whole bunch of other scary things.

            • mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de
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              1 year ago

              Why are you pretending like China is communist when they have several stock exchanges? Is that where you exchange MarxBux?

              Shanghai Stock Exchange: http://english.sse.com.cn/

              Beijing Stock Exchange: www.bse.cn

              Shenzhen Stock Exchange: https://www.szse.cn/English/index.html

              That's more stock exchanges than the US, comrade!

              • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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                1 year ago

                I don't really care whether or not China is communist, or if other people think it's communist for various esoteric reasons. It doesn't effect me either way. State Department propaganda and warmongering does effect me though.

                • mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de
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                  1 year ago

                  Of course you don't care if it is communist. Communism was never the point. Mask comes off that you guys are just authoritarians masquerading as glorious revolutionaries.