Say “aye” or yes" if you are in favour defederation.

Say “nay” or “no” if you are against defederation.

Only users who have a sh.itjust.works account can vote. Fresh accounts won't be counted.

  • Nakoichi [he/him]
    hexbear
    63
    10 months ago

    Yes you should. This instance should not have been federated at all and I regret having voted in favor. You're a bunch of racist fucks.

    • Falkerie@sh.itjust.works
      hexbear
      37
      10 months ago

      Racist because of one parody image of Xi the Pooh that was clearly not even aimed at Asians in general? Jesus you guys are a bunch of snowflakes. And that's coming from an Asian/Taiwanese myself. We don't need your self imposed superiority to feel sorry for us. We know what's racist and what's not. Thank you.

      • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
        hexbear
        53
        10 months ago

        You can paint the president of the world's largest asian country yellow and I I'll tell you it's fine

        pick me

        • Falkerie@sh.itjust.works
          hexbear
          16
          10 months ago

          You can depict the current leading party in Taiwan as maggots and I could also tell you it's fine. In fact, people here already do. The CCP just so happens to be that sensitive about a fucking yellow cartoon bear. Hilarious I know. If they someday be also sensitive about a pink alien and we make fun of it, are you going to tell me it's racist against aliens?

          • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
            hexbear
            33
            10 months ago

            Lol stupid black people upset about wide lipstick. It's just fucking lipstick and face paint. Hilarious I know.

            I just came up with this rhetorical strategy of flattening the context of an offensive act so as to present it as being non offensive! I don't know where I got the idea but I sure do feel like I could win an online debate with it.

            • Falkerie@sh.itjust.works
              hexbear
              10
              10 months ago

              FYI, that meme originated from Chinese social media. If that meme was supposed to be racist, you're essentially saying that Asian people somehow offends other Asians about their skin color being yellow, despite themselves being the same ethnicity.

              You see the problem here?

              • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
                hexbear
                27
                edit-2
                10 months ago

                You must be very slow witted to have your "I can't be racist because I'm Asian" argument dismissed so many times now and still drop it like it's a conversation stopper.

                I don't care if it was created in a Wuhan lab. I care how it's deployed. And it doesn't get turned into the west's go to propaganda poster portrait without filling the role of yellow scare racism. It and your juvenile 'cee cee pee' shit has a clear purpose that you're just too much of a troll to speak plainly about.

                • Falkerie@sh.itjust.works
                  hexbear
                  3
                  10 months ago

                  And you must be very slow witted to get that Asians here were never insulted because of the meme (except China since they love their leader so much). The meme was never the problem.

                  If you actually cared about Asians, you would have researched in Asian social media or asked Asian people how they think about the picture, and how it relates to racism if any. Racism is a problem in the US yes, but I absolutely do not believe that a meme has that much to do with the core problem with it. Take out the meme, and they would come up with another excuse like COVID to legitimize it in no time. They would happily rally around Trump and spout their racism and fuck China shit because there's another enabler.

        • Falkerie@sh.itjust.works
          hexbear
          12
          10 months ago

          From what I see, Hexbears feeling the need to judge others for matters that aren't about themselves, and also don't bother to listen to the people who they think are affected, are the ones who drank the coolaid.

            • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
              hexbear
              20
              edit-2
              10 months ago

              We're talking that the white man is never going to respect anyone who sells out.

              White guy here, born and raised on the brunch steppes. RoomandBored is completely right. My formative years were spent listening to my nice liberal family casually degrade and disparage every other country and it's inhabitants. To them, if you're not from America you're from "some shithole", and you will always be lesser in their eyes. You can try to fit in by throwing others under the bus, but those distant gates of honorary whiteness will never open, and the horrifying part is that there is nothing beyond them anyway. The barrier is the entire thing. You do not want to be "in" with us.

              • GarbageShoot [he/him]
                hexbear
                10
                10 months ago

                and the horrifying part is that there is nothing beyond them anyway. The barrier is the entire thing. You do not want to be "in" with us.

                Big "We have the wall to work upon" energy

            • Falkerie@sh.itjust.works
              hexbear
              5
              10 months ago

              think that what’s acceptable to apply to a prominent Asian figure is acceptable to apply to all Asians

              I also see US political comics depicting prominent figures of the US as animals, devils, etc. It's a thing they do. Xi the Pooh isn't something new they came up with, so I think that the picture in question has little to do with deep running racism.

              What Uncle Roger went through is sad, but whether it's because of COVID or the picture, they're all just excuses imo. Take one out, and they'll find another as their excuse.

      • @icepuncher69@sh.itjust.works
        hexbear
        24
        10 months ago

        They are just larpers that like the whole USSR/CCP asthetic,my advice is to not engage them since they will just piss you of and no valuable conversation is gonna come out from it.

        • Nakoichi [he/him]
          hexbear
          43
          10 months ago

          I am literally an anarchist who has also done more praxis than most of your instance combined.

            • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
              hexbear
              12
              edit-2
              10 months ago

              Yeah i bet theyd be much better off in the other Online Anarchist Spaces, where they have contests to see who can hold the least anarchist value and still call themself one, more time is spent fighting Twitter Stalinists and overseas bureaucrats than asking for clean water for minorities in their own country, and any given user could randomly be a toddler or a DHS sockpuppet. So fun, safe, and productive.

            • GarbageShoot [he/him]
              hexbear
              11
              10 months ago

              Yeah, that time could be spent celebrating worthless morons like Makhno instead of working with people with whom you have common class interests.

            • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
              hexbear
              20
              10 months ago

              People who realize we have more problems than minor theoretical differences? Nakoichi is an actual organizer who works with indigenous people and that deserves respect if you're any kind of leftist

            • GarbageShoot [he/him]
              hexbear
              15
              10 months ago

              One who isn't a moronic splitter and understands that the imperial core is their actual enemy

            • @winterayars@sh.itjust.works
              hexbear
              6
              10 months ago

              As an anarchist: like all anarchists (in the English speaking West) do this, anarchism is a small movement.

              At the same time, i just spent a bunch of time arguing with a pair of Hexbear accounts that are probably Russian state media so uh... yeesh.

        • Egon [they/them]
          hexbear
          39
          10 months ago

          Lmao the fact that we won't discuss our IRL organising efforts in detail mean we're larpers. Okay fedposting

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
          hexbear
          12
          10 months ago

          I really don't understand how you could conclude that it was an aesthetic interest

      • Nakoichi [he/him]
        hexbear
        52
        10 months ago

        I'm not debating you I am pointing out a very obvious fact about your community.

        • @goat@sh.itjust.works
          hexagon
          hexbear
          17
          10 months ago

          Oh if it's so obvious you must have plenty of very obvious examples of the entirety of SJW being obviously racist.

          • Egon [they/them]
            hexbear
            29
            10 months ago

            We can start with your comm that has picture of an asian man colored yellow, and then go thru the many users that casually use bigoted language after. Not that you're gonna care, because "good faith discussion" is a city in Greece to you guys.

        • PeoplesRepublicOfNewEngland [he/him]
          hexbear
          8
          edit-2
          10 months ago

          I think you're overcounting, pretty sure anyone who creates a sh.itjust.works account forfeits their soul and is no longer a person. Maybe there were five that had a soul before they did that idk

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
    hexbear
    60
    10 months ago

    Isn't it funny how this poll was started by the person who moderates the community with the racist banner? Apparently their opinion counts for something over here 🤔

    • @goat@sh.itjust.works
      hexagon
      hexbear
      29
      10 months ago

      those damn Chinese citizens making racist memes of themselves!

      (for those unaware, Xi Ping as Winnie the Pooh originated from Chinese citizens making fun of their government)

      • booty [he/him]
        hexbear
        43
        10 months ago

        a chinese person did not make that image of xi with his skin tinted yellow

        • @goat@sh.itjust.works
          hexagon
          hexbear
          14
          10 months ago

          Not much is known about them, no, but they were born in China. Considering China's lack of diversity, chances are is that they are ethnically Chinese.

          • Nakoichi [he/him]
            hexbear
            45
            edit-2
            10 months ago

            See this is racist as fuck. You have any idea how many ethnic groups exist in China?

            What next you're gonna tell me that Africa isn't diverse just because there are mostly dark skinned people there?

            This is the sort of unexamined racism people are pointing out to you and your only defense is "Nuh uh, I can't be racist because I never say slurs to people's face".

            You people have a childlike interpretation of the world.

            • @goat@sh.itjust.works
              hexagon
              hexbear
              15
              edit-2
              10 months ago

              1,284,446,389 Han

              19,568,546 Zhuang

              11,774,538 Uyghur

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_China#Ethnic_groups_recognized_by_the_People's_Republic_of_China

              so much diversity!

          • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
            hexbear
            19
            10 months ago

            We're not talking about the original meme, we are talking about you changing the skin color of a Chinese person to be yellow. That's all you.

            Just because someone makes a joke about a group they're a part of doesn't mean that you then get to take it way further and way more racial.

  • Flinch [he/him]
    hexbear
    58
    10 months ago

    Hexbearian here, please defederate, thank you mao-wave

  • Egon [they/them]
    hexbear
    58
    edit-2
    10 months ago

    Remember kids: Brigading is when you click on a post that shows up on your feed.
    Propaganda is when you source your claims so others can investigate for themselves.
    Toxic is when you respond to condescention in kind.
    Anyone that disagrees with you are either shills or bots.
    Researching your claims is actually indoctrination.
    It's okay to use bigoted language if its towards someone you don't like.
    Changing your mind is for commies.

    Edit: And it is september 3rd and Stalin saved the world from fascism btw.

  • @Gullible@sh.itjust.works
    hexbear
    40
    10 months ago

    Yes.

    I’m sensitive to racial issues but the way they go about discussing them devalues them in the same way that I used to devalue them, and reliving my mistakes in every comment section is killing me. Also, everything turns into twitch chat after they arrive.

  • Doofus Magoo@sh.itjust.works
    hexbear
    34
    10 months ago

    Nay.

    My beliefs aren"t so fragile that they're threatened by opposing viewpoints, even those that may not be put forth in good faith.

    And I can simply block (the relatively small (?) proportion of) users that don't engage in good faith.

  • @Slacking@sh.itjust.works
    hexbear
    31
    10 months ago

    Nay,

    I really wish people that hate hexbear would take a step back and look at their own behavior. Most hateful comments I see on the subject seem to be aimed at them and not coming from them.

  • Yllych [any]
    hexbear
    28
    10 months ago

    aye, their posting power is simply too great