Seems people frequently talk about negative experiences of them then end up banned shortly after

Also seems like people are weirdly quick to jump to their defense for the internet

  • 摆 烂@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    They’re just trolls. They say their communist, but I haven’t seen any evidence other than they say they hate capitalism. But who doesn’t nowadays? Really they’re anarchists with nothing more to do.

    Imagine the worst right wing trump supporter spouting off crazy shit and trying to get you pissed off. That’s them, but the left side.

    They also like to team up and have multiple accounts.

    Buuut… they usually hate all the same things I do, so it’s hard to hate them too. 🤷‍♂️

    Don’t feed the bear.

    • Nakoichi [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      Wait so are we anarchists or tankies? I'm confused...

        • Nakoichi [he/him]
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          10 months ago

          More like anti-left unity. This person clearly hates both "tankies" and anarchists. Of course they probably have zero grasp of Marxist Leninism, Maoism, anarchism, or historical materialism in general.

  • TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    They’re annoying as fuck with a toxic culture, which is why they were running as isolated instance for so long

    • posthexbearposting [they/them]
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      10 months ago

      No it was because we started before federation was in the codebase, and it took a lot of development work before we were able to federate due to the forks diverging. But ok genius.

  • AceQuorthon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    10 months ago

    In short, tankies that won’t shut up and stop shoehorning themselves into every conversation. Feel free to block every user that will inevitably reply to this comment about how I’m not Trotskij-pilled and really a bourgeoisie Jeff Bezos semen demon, or some stupid shit like that.

    • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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      10 months ago

      these are some mighty bold words. bold words that i could place next to a soyjak. you best think your next words carefully, son hst-gun

  • Blake [he/him]@feddit.uk
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    10 months ago

    I think a lot of the backlash is because people are used to being inside their comfortable echo chambers where dissenting voices are totally marginalised and they felt like their opinions were universally shared among sensible people.

    With federation, those echo chambers are interacting with each-other a lot more than they usually would, on relatively equal footing, and being confronted by the idea that other people think that your opinions are shit and that you tacitly support some evil practice is an uncomfortable feeling! The natural inclination is to reject that sort of experience as a jerk who is intentionally trolling you, personally, because they’re wrong or brainwashed or whatever.

    The reality is that we’re all just flawed people who aren’t very good at dealing with our emotions and it’s a lot easier to blame and banish someone who disagrees with us than to talk to them and come to a consensus. But the latter is how we actually solve our conflicts.

    We have a lot more in common with each-other than separates us.

    Except from Nazis, fuck Nazis.

    • Nakoichi [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      We have a lot more in common with each-other than separates us.

      This is the correct take.

      People on this site have a bad habit of larping like any red or black army actually exists or is even likely to exist in the near term. Saying stuff like never organize with X group as though there aren't already few enough leftists out here to begin with.

      We're so far from the point where we can even imagine what faction of the left will claim a majority in any hypothetical revolution and people are arguing about China or "red-fash" nonsense when we have a crumbling empire right at our feet that needs us to organize and unite.

      We have a hell of a lot of work to do both in outreach and education and must provide a clear alternative to reactionary groups for the masses losing faith in the legitimacy or efficacy of liberal capitalism before we start rehashing 100 year old ideological beefs.

      The tankies aren't going to murder you, there's no impending revolution for the anarchists to betray and thinking that the exact same historical conflicts and mistakes will be inevitably repeated is defeatist and anti-materialist.

      A better world is possible. None of us can accurately say how or when we will get there but unless we get our shit together it will be to late. Maybe it already is too late, maybe the world has already ended but we have to at least try.

      • Blake [he/him]@feddit.uk
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        10 months ago

        I would be happy to answer your question, but these things can be quite complex - would you help me by letting me know what you understand fascism to mean, and what you understand communism to mean? It’s important that we establish mutual agreement on the meaning of those terms before we can really discuss further!

  • Nakoichi [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    Almost like anti-communists get mad and almost immediately out themselves as reactionary pieces of shit shrug-outta-hecks

  • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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    10 months ago

    I've been on Hexbear for two and a half years and honestly I still couldn't tell you what the deal with its userbase is

  • culpritus [any]
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    10 months ago

    mostly just folks very resistant to learn some quite simple things due to their overly propagandized worldview

    I'm talking about people that have trouble with basic understandings of political economy like:

    leftism : anti-capitalist :: liberal : anti-communist

    I can only imagine the shock they are experiencing

    we're mostly pretty chill if people can be chill with each other, unfortunately some folks are just uncomfortable with understanding the complexity of the world I guess

  • Mechaguana@programming.dev
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    10 months ago

    Personally I enjoy their antics, I prefer their brand to the one of the right wing circle jerk and if they manage to impede theirs I am more than fine about them.

  • boredtortoise@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    Lemmy is mostly leftists and communists and it seems that patience is running thin on how some very active reactionary HB's behave against the ideologies. There are also cool & funny leftists there but they get lost in noise.