Greetings gamers and those who wisely abstain,

It has become clear to us that even in the short while we’ve federated, the situation with sh.itholefor.nazis is entirely untenable and we will be defederating immediately. Multiple instances of ableist and homophobic slurs directed at our users, overwhelming litigiousness against even the most innocuous comments by our users, and just a general ethos of reactionary behavior. We’re done and out.

One of the concerns with embracing TC69 thought on site bans with federation is that the user would basically be just hexbear-side hidden and blocked from our comms, free to post reactionary content without the fear of Lenin behind them. That was a silly concern. We will resume our pre-federation policies regarding site bans.

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  • Awoo [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    But a lot of people aren't fully conscious. They are coasting through life without understanding ideology. They are political non-participants.

    The communists, the neoliberals, the fascists? They are participants.

    It's a group that is worth talking about and having a word for. Whether you want to make up a new word for them or not I don't care but I won't pretend it's not useful to be able to discuss them.

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Their ideological laziness is no reason to fall into equally lazy "sheeple"-like rhetoric

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        Even the 1800s and 1900s communists were using "the masses" and implying a significant difference existed between the politically active of the party and the reactionaries compared to the politically inactive of "the masses". I suppose you could use this today but it's not as obvious when you have the very specific intent of communicating about others as politically deactivated vs politically activated.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      While I somewhat agree with you, it's actually their thing to assume people that disagree with them "aren't fully conscious." It seems like the ideological cousin of deciding who is "human" and who is "subhuman."

      It's a group that is worth talking about and having a word for. Whether you want to make up a new word for them or not I don't care but I won't pretend it's not useful to be able to discuss them.

      I suppose I critically support culture-jamming the concept so it doesn't become their exclusive rhetorical weapon but I still don't like how it tends to cut.

    • silent_water [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      But a lot of people aren't fully conscious. They are coasting through life without understanding ideology. They are political non-participants.

      this is a reactionary way of describing the lack of political consciousness. they are fully aware, they're just stewing in false consciousness. it's important not to confuse that with an actually degrade state of consciousness.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        I fundamentally disagree. Most of them don't have false consciousness. False consciousness is a concrete and describable thing. It is an absence of any consciousness, they default to the status quo and vote every few years but otherwise neither follow politics nor really care a great deal, generally because they're comfortable.

    • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      they already have a name, "apos", the "apolitical"
      no need to drop into "npc" shit

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        They're not apolitical though. They default to the status quo when you force some politics out of them. But they are non-participants otherwise. Maybe voting every few years but not really paying attention or taking part outside of that.

    • Crucible [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Maybe I've misunderstood the terms but doesn't lumpenproletariat cover this group?

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        This group are primarily a criminal element, whereas I'm referring to a generally unconscious group of politically de-activated workers. The best word you see for this is usually just "masses", but "the masses" has a different problem in that it often feels like it implies the masses can't stop being the masses by joining the politically activated groups (communists, fascists, etc).

        My general point here is that you have the politically active, the politically aware, and then the politically inactive and politically unaware. These last 2 groups are what get referred to as "NPCs" by the right because they only view the politically active as participants in the "game", where the game being referred to is politics. People that exist but are not player characters, they exist to be influenced by the player characters.

        I don't really disagree with others that this language has problems though to be honest, I just don't feel like an adequate replacement word has appeared that really captures it as well as this.