• EnglesProbably [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Can someone give me a rundown of the situation with the Uighurs? My general understanding is that due to heavy radicalization of Muslims in the area, a large number of whom had fought with ISIS, the Chinese gov has set up reeducation camps, basically internment camps.

    As far as I know, China has been really heavy handed in doing so, probably taking more political prisoners than the situation requires. I also read a report about forced hysterectomies, although it seemed to be pieced together from Chinese expats. Are most of the claims fabricated? Or is China doing lots of human rights abuses?

    This is an honest question. I thought I had it understood but it seems like mainstream media sources have been making not so vague anymore claims about what is going on. Obviously most of which is propaganda but it seems pretty bold to make direct claims of forced sterilizations and shit.

    • KiaKaha [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The bulk of re-education is now complete. People have been, for the most part, moved into job placements, with more serious offenders charged and put into prison.

      The birth control stuff is mostly atrocity propaganda from the usual people on the CIA payroll. The reports of birth control have serious flaws.

      Another sensational claim made by Zenz was that at least 80 percent of the new surgeries of IUD placements in China was performed in Xinjiang in 2018, which is yet another proof that Xinjiang government is carrying out large scale family planning policy.

      However, Lin found out that according to the official data published by the National Health Commission, in 2018, the new surgeries of IUD placement nationwide was 3,774,318 and for Xinjiang it was 328,475. Thus the new surgeries in Xinjiang only accounted for 8.7 percent of the national total. The 80-percent claim is another outright lie.

    • Poutine_And_Politics [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      My favourite claim is one that the UN has used to push the "millions of Muslims in concentration camps!" thing is literally a report by an American-based Chinese think tank who went to rural Xinjiang, then found one person in eight villages (for a total of eight people), then asked this one person how many Uighers they thought lived in the town before the re-education program, and how many had been taken. They took the numbers from these eight random folks and then extrapolated it for the entirety of China.

      I don't doubt there's some shady shit going down, and definitely some human rights abuses, but the scale is incredibly exaggerated.