• redthebaron [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    YOU KNOW I DON'T THINK THE PERSON WHO DID THIS WOULD ENJOY IF WE TOOK THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE APPROACH AND MADE VOTES OF MINORITES BE WORTH MORE THAN RURAL AMERICANS because that is what the electoral college does it makes people votes be worth more or less depending

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Seems like "rural americans suffer the same issues literally the entire proletariat suffer under capitalism" as a method of claiming oppression.

        The problem is that they feel the injustice of it all and think that is a unique experience of their group instead of the standard experience under capitalism. They therefore argue that they are oppressed because they don't recognise it as something everyone is suffering. This causes them to lash out because they don't like minorities receiving "special treatment" for their actually-unique oppression while they are seeming not getting any benefits for their perceived oppression which is really just capitalist suffering of the working class.

        Cutting through this mindset is a matter of making them realise their "oppression" is the worker class experience under capitalism and not a uniquely comparable form of oppression like that which trans people, poc, or others experience for immutable characteristics. This might make them turn their feelings towards the real cause.

        • Anapisfi [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Totally. I didn't mean to imply that rural Americans aren't uniquely oppressed, but Democrats/Republicans don't offer them anything. So they go after the 'other' because they don't think they're being treated fairly. There's a reason when someone runs on fixing the plights of the working class, the fundraising map looks like this.

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            Oh what I was getting at was that what was described here was not a unique oppression. It's just the same oppression everyone gets. All the marginalised groups get EXTRA. The problem is that they do not recognise this and see the standard capitalist oppression everyone gets as unique to them and equal to the oppressions that are receiving what they perceive as "special treatment".

            I argue that the rural proletariat won't unite with the urban proletariat until this distortion is eliminated. It is one of the primary things in their mindset that is used to drive their anger and division with marginalised groups in an effort to split them from the urban proletariat.

      • redthebaron [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        no because that would be really dumb thing to think also god i hate the funny political square reddit so much

      • lvysaur [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        mayo pea brains

        I honestly think there's something deficient in the europoid brain breaks out calipers