John Bolton was one of the dumbest people in government that I’ve had the “pleasure” to work with. A sullen, dull and quiet guy, he added nothing to National Security except, “Gee, let’s go to war.” Also, illegally released much Classified Information. A real dope!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 15, 2020
obama didn’t pull troops out, he put troops in and bombed more. ten times more strikes than bush
Those were drone strikes. Do you know the difference between drone strikes and ground troops? Obama withdrew troops from Iraq. This is common knowledge. What does any of this have to do with total civilian deaths which Bush had way more of, or the fact that Trump is also an imperialist?
You still have not given me a total obama civilian death count
Obama being an imperialist does not negate Trump being an imperialist. You seen to keep ignoring this too
the argument is that trump did not expand upon imperialism, which i've demonstrated. being not as expansive as your predecessor does show that you are literally not expanding upon imperialism, which was the original argument back in the first post. you seem to keep ignoring this.
i just showed you that obama didn’t pull troops out, he moved into Afghanista
But by the end of his administration there less troops in Afghanistan and Iraq than when he got into office. This is irrelevant because Obama is still an imperialist.
Same policy under Trump. How can you say trumps death count is 10% of Obama's if you don't even know Obama's death count?
His administration literally backed two coups in Latin America, one was actually successful, and the war in Yemen expanded. What are you talking about dude?
you don't get points for adding in a bunch of troops and then pulling them out, and then claiming that every male killed was a terrorist because you can't prove they weren't.
yes, he did, and absolutely that is fucked. most of the blame there is the CIA though, and that's fourth branch style shit. the entire time trump has been decreasing military expansion, and if he hadn't he'd be getting another term. they don't want someone who isn't going to expand. expect peace talks in Afghanistan to fall through as soon as biden takes the helm.
No one is defending Obama. I've consistently stated in every comment of mine that he's imperialist. You only brought him up as a strawman. Your argument is that Trump isn't an expansionist, when I've shown you that he's expanded drone strikes, more drone strikes in 2 years than Obama in 8. He's expanded the war in Yemen. His administration backed two coups in Latin America, and lastly he's expanded the military budget substantially. So you can bring Obama up all you want, but Obama being an imperialist does not negate Trump also being an imperialist and expanding its power
if trump was expanding he wouldn't have faced any resistance waltzing into a second term. why'd he fire bolton? because he was the guy telling him to expand upon imperialism.
i think you've been on reddit too long if you have to label valid arguments as 'strawmen.' relativity is a valid thing to bring up in any argument.
he has not expanded the military budget substantially, it's been around 700 billion annually for almost as long as i can remember.
as s tated, there's plenty of valid reasons to hate trump that you don't have to make shit up. he is the least war hungry president we've had in like 50 years, and probably will be for another 50. if he wasn't, he'd still be in office.
President Donald Trump has revoked a policy set by his predecessor requiring US intelligence officials to publish the number of civilians killed in drone strikes outside of war zones.
There have been 2,243 drone strikes in the first two years of the Trump presidency, compared with 1,878 in Mr Obama's eight years in office, according to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism, a UK-based think tank.
Now will you stop acting like Trump is not an imperialist or are you going to keep acting like the chuds who think he's anti establishment?
Those were drone strikes. Do you know the difference between drone strikes and ground troops? Obama withdrew troops from Iraq. This is common knowledge. What does any of this have to do with total civilian deaths which Bush had way more of, or the fact that Trump is also an imperialist?
You still have not given me a total obama civilian death count
Obama being an imperialist does not negate Trump being an imperialist. You seen to keep ignoring this too
i just showed you that obama didn't pull troops out, he moved into Afghanistan.
But by the end of his administration there less troops in Afghanistan and Iraq than when he got into office. This is irrelevant because Obama is still an imperialist.
Same policy under Trump. How can you say trumps death count is 10% of Obama's if you don't even know Obama's death count?
His administration literally backed two coups in Latin America, one was actually successful, and the war in Yemen expanded. What are you talking about dude?
you don't get points for adding in a bunch of troops and then pulling them out, and then claiming that every male killed was a terrorist because you can't prove they weren't.
current estimates are at 160,000 in afghanistan, showing over a 50% drop in casualties under trump, assuming that trump continued obama's policy of just counting every dead male as a combatant as you suggest
No one is defending Obama. I've consistently stated in every comment of mine that he's imperialist. You only brought him up as a strawman. Your argument is that Trump isn't an expansionist, when I've shown you that he's expanded drone strikes, more drone strikes in 2 years than Obama in 8. He's expanded the war in Yemen. His administration backed two coups in Latin America, and lastly he's expanded the military budget substantially. So you can bring Obama up all you want, but Obama being an imperialist does not negate Trump also being an imperialist and expanding its power
if trump was expanding he wouldn't have faced any resistance waltzing into a second term. why'd he fire bolton? because he was the guy telling him to expand upon imperialism.
i think you've been on reddit too long if you have to label valid arguments as 'strawmen.' relativity is a valid thing to bring up in any argument.
he has not expanded the military budget substantially, it's been around 700 billion annually for almost as long as i can remember.
as s tated, there's plenty of valid reasons to hate trump that you don't have to make shit up. he is the least war hungry president we've had in like 50 years, and probably will be for another 50. if he wasn't, he'd still be in office.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47480207
From the article:
Now will you stop acting like Trump is not an imperialist or are you going to keep acting like the chuds who think he's anti establishment?
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