and you refuse to see that you're wrong & USSR actually allowed for dissent elsewhere, and provided ballast to something like "social democracy" and Keynesianism taking firm root in the West lol
i didn't say USSR was perfect. but you're being needlessly contrarian just because you think you could build socialism without states
all I am saying is, prove it
offer one piece of evidence that USSR was evil. all you seem to be doing is providing evidence of your own anti-communism & lack of concern with economic exploitation
The whole authoritarian experiement was failure from the start if they fucking repesented the poeple how could it degenerate in to the 80s and modern day russia i would ever only call the leaders like lenin or stalin evil ussr itself was just tool for the ruling class to project power
again, Russia's deterioration didn't really take off until after the collapse in 1991 & food shortages & decline in standards of living returned in the mid-90s when capitalism took root again.
additionally, you've provided no evidence of your position
almost like you're here just to whine & complain and be contrarian hehe. weird that you're not very good at it, persistent tho!
it "didn't achieve the space race"? is that your expert opinion?
are you sure you're here in good faith?
bureaucracy isn't exclusive to ML states of the 20th century.
Nothing you're talking about is exclusive to ML states of the 20th century lol
you just fucking refuse to see that the soviet union was more than just some fucking corrupt central party
and you refuse to see that you're wrong & USSR actually allowed for dissent elsewhere, and provided ballast to something like "social democracy" and Keynesianism taking firm root in the West lol
i didn't say USSR was perfect. but you're being needlessly contrarian just because you think you could build socialism without states
all I am saying is, prove it
offer one piece of evidence that USSR was evil. all you seem to be doing is providing evidence of your own anti-communism & lack of concern with economic exploitation
The whole authoritarian experiement was failure from the start if they fucking repesented the poeple how could it degenerate in to the 80s and modern day russia i would ever only call the leaders like lenin or stalin evil ussr itself was just tool for the ruling class to project power
wrong, plenty of ML states still exist
again, Russia's deterioration didn't really take off until after the collapse in 1991 & food shortages & decline in standards of living returned in the mid-90s when capitalism took root again.
additionally, you've provided no evidence of your position
almost like you're here just to whine & complain and be contrarian hehe. weird that you're not very good at it, persistent tho!
Youre just fucking delusional
likewise lmfao
yes, and exactly 0 successful anti-ML (anti?)-capitalist projects or "zones" exist in any meaningful way
nice work making sure they dont exist
what would they accomplish if they did?