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    • volkvulture [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      or by workers & cadres... as was done in USSR & PRC and elsewhere

      artels existed in USSR, and largely managed their own affairs/production

      you just think reading/parroting anti-communist Western imperialist propaganda/false history means you're warning others about something, but you're the one who needs to dip back into studies on these matters.

      the history you've received is falsified & propagandized against ML states.

      capitalism and imperialism & white male supremacy all work in tandem. cultural hegemony & historical revision prevent you from functionally drilling down here and receiving any wisdom from history

      the way you're waving off Marxism & ML states heavily indicates that your politics align with ancap nonsense. Any superficial "leftist" aesthetic interests are merely that

      Lenin & Marx all wanted an eventual "withering away of the state", but such a thing must be achieved & not merely hoped for

      • socialist [she/her]
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        Still it all comes to the corrupt state bureaucracy and the state falling or could it be (((Them))) behind it all