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  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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    4 years ago

    This all seems like a solid, comprehensible explanation, but didn't the ISO dissolve because it came out that the leadership had engaged in a systematic cover up of sexual assault by one of its own?

    • gammison [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      That was the straw that broke the camel's back, but there was talk of dissolving before that happened. Many of the ex ISO members have now joined DSA.

        • gammison [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          I mean kinda, I don't mean that the bad iso members who were covering up stuff joined, but a fair number of members did end up joining dsa instead of another Trotskyist group, which to me signals that they figured that the old stereotypical model of organizing wasn't working and they want to do something else. My own ydsa chapter we converted from an iso one, and it's flourishing now much better than it was before.

            • gammison [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              I am aware of a single instance of national leadership facing an assault accusation in 2017. While the process took longer than it should, the NPC member was removed, and DSA bylaws were changed at the following convention to make the process easier if it ever happened again. In single chapters the only one I'm aware of is Lawrence KA DSA, which was also resolved fairly quickl (by the chapter I think disbanding, not sure), and frankly also had a lot of other intra-chapter sectarian fighting stuff going on (including one member who had quit, joined PSL, and then been so obscene that they were kicked out of PSL, and some kansas city redguard chicanery).

              Compare this to the ISO where the entire national leadership covered up an assault.

              • Healthcare_pls [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                Oh okay then. I know that news of sexual assault coverups have really turned off my local YDSA chapter from working with the National org. This is a lot more context. Thanks for the good faith response