okay, but I just told you that ML projects are not based on the spurious bourgeois misrepresentations of economic/cultural historiography
You said "Fine", so if you can believe that ML projects depended on millions of unnamed & devoted people rather than a few "charismatic leaders", then you admit that Great Man theory doesn't relate to socialist history hardly at all
so please, I would beg you stop projecting your own beliefs about history onto others.
Mao and Stalin & Castro did not achieve everything alone, but historiography in the West is geared in this way. Almost anything we read is steeped in these false ideological conventions regardless, just by nature of being written in the capitalist West
you just said multiple times that too many arguments promoting ML states are "run through" and unacceptably based on Great Man theory, but then failed to point out how this was the case whether anecdotally or with examples or in any statistical fashion
this isn't personal... and socialism isn't based on personality disputes lol.
again, we are getting bogged down in trying to map our biased and often subconscious Western heuristics onto 20th century anti-capitalist/anti-imperialist realities
one thread's UI being broken wouldn't prevent you from demonstrating your position in any numerous other threads here or elsewhere online.
even by recounting some previous situation in moderate detail where you encountered fallacious Great Man theorizing about ML states would lend credence to this trend of others poisoning the online socialist discussion well
I think this is more about your own personal views on ML states & anti-imperialism rather than any general tendency you've noticed in others
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to your implication or suggestion that I am making a Great Man argument for ML projects, bc I am not
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okay, but I just told you that ML projects are not based on the spurious bourgeois misrepresentations of economic/cultural historiography
You said "Fine", so if you can believe that ML projects depended on millions of unnamed & devoted people rather than a few "charismatic leaders", then you admit that Great Man theory doesn't relate to socialist history hardly at all
so please, I would beg you stop projecting your own beliefs about history onto others.
Mao and Stalin & Castro did not achieve everything alone, but historiography in the West is geared in this way. Almost anything we read is steeped in these false ideological conventions regardless, just by nature of being written in the capitalist West
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you just said multiple times that too many arguments promoting ML states are "run through" and unacceptably based on Great Man theory, but then failed to point out how this was the case whether anecdotally or with examples or in any statistical fashion
this isn't personal... and socialism isn't based on personality disputes lol.
again, we are getting bogged down in trying to map our biased and often subconscious Western heuristics onto 20th century anti-capitalist/anti-imperialist realities
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one thread's UI being broken wouldn't prevent you from demonstrating your position in any numerous other threads here or elsewhere online.
even by recounting some previous situation in moderate detail where you encountered fallacious Great Man theorizing about ML states would lend credence to this trend of others poisoning the online socialist discussion well
I think this is more about your own personal views on ML states & anti-imperialism rather than any general tendency you've noticed in others
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