Hello, users of hexbear:

At the start of federation we had a user request programming.dev be added to our allow-list, we recently had a similarly upvoted request to remove programming.dev from our allow-list.

Recently, an admin of that instance reached out wanting to know what we could do to get programming.dev and hexbear.net back on federation.

I asked the admin if they would be open to continuing communications regarding any programming.dev users that are site-banned so that they could address the same user if they break the code of conduct on programming.dev

I went through our mod logs and found five programming.dev users site-banned from hexbear, two were for report abuse and three were for reactionary takes.

Programming.dev does not have any communities that would be considered reactionary, as the instance is focused on ... programming.

Their admin will most likely remove/block/silence any political communities on hexbear from the programming.dev side, as they are committed to removing communities that do not fit their niche.

Due to the communication from their admin, as well as the relative low amount of reactionary users relative to their 150+ active user base, I wanted to ask the community if we should add programming.dev back to our allow-list.

Use the dean-smile emoji to vote for adding programming.dev to the hexbear.net allow-list

Use the dean-frown emoji to vote for keeping programming.dev off the hexbear.net allow-list

You may also use this post to discuss federation with that instance.

Some of their active communities are: When interacting on that instance, please observe the respective communities' rules as well as the instance code of conduct.

https://programming.dev/c/programmer_humor

https://programming.dev/c/programming

https://programming.dev/c/rust

https://programming.dev/c/godot

https://programming.dev/c/python

https://programming.dev/c/experienced_devs

  • Ategon [any]
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    1 year ago

    Were a neutral instance so we dont explicitly back other instances and we federate with as many instances as possible (within reason) to get everyone who wants to to able to participate in the coding chats (defederations are all due to legal reasons or due to those instances being very focused on hate speech (and a couple due to technical reasons due to federation breaking with them))

    Heres also a link to an updated announcement + discussion if someone wants it https://programming.dev/post/2652745 (the other link is about us being removed from the allowlist)

    • silent_water [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      can you explain which comms you're going to hide as political, so we're clear on what that means to you all? there's some confusion in this thread about it as political discussion is considered on topic for every comm on this instance.

      • Ategon [any]
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        1 year ago

        Some communities being hidden are: https://hexbear.net/c/politics https://hexbear.net/c/news https://hexbear.net/c/marxism https://hexbear.net/c/anarchism https://hexbear.net/c/sino https://hexbear.net/c/memes

        Some communities not being hidden are: https://hexbear.net/c/science https://hexbear.net/c/gardening https://hexbear.net/c/art https://hexbear.net/c/gamedev https://hexbear.net/c/hobby https://hexbear.net/c/ttrpg https://hexbear.net/c/games https://hexbear.net/c/sports

        (Theres more in both categories but that should give you an idea of the separation)

        All of these will still be findable within the instance, just the ones at the top wont get people randomly wandering in from the all feed

    • buckykat [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      if their admins don't back the shitheads and bigot[ed users] [on their own instance] like [the admins of] justworks [do], I mean to say. That is, I expect you to ban transphobes and slur-sayers from programming.dev in accordance with your stated anti hate speech rules.

      One thing I do find somewhat concerning is that you seem to believe that there are political and non-political communities. Everything is political, apolitical things most of all.

      • Ategon [any]
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        1 year ago

        Ah yeah were definitely following our rules in the sidebar (I've had to ban some already). All communities have some element of being political to them but the difference im making is whether its focused on politics itself as opposed to something like a tool or niche