Classic_Agency [he/him,comrade/them] to menby • 4 years ago

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Man hating has consequences

Classic_Agency [he/him,comrade/them] to menby • 4 years ago

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Classic_Agency [he/him,comrade/them]
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Yes exactly, when you refer to men, that includes trans men. To say 'men' and then go 'but we don't mean trans men' is kinda transphobic as it excludes trans men from being men.

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