Podcast/Article: Ken Burns' Civility War

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Description: <p>We talk to Ben Cohen of the eponymous Ben & Jerry's and Professor Marjorie Cohn about Julian Assange's extradition hearing and his case's implications for freedom of the press. Brie reads a dispatch from the front lines of the ongoing Civil War between the progressive and corporate factions of the Democratic Party. Virgil and Brie give their initial review of Barack Obama's new biography and bet on whether Joe Biden will cancel their student loans.</p> <p><a href= "https://act.dsausa.org/signup/QA_about_DSA_11_19/">Sign up to watch Brie and Virgil’s live DSA Q&A</a> Thursday 11/19 at 8 ET.</p> <a href="http://patreon.com/badfaithpodcast">Subscribe to Bad Faith on Patreon</a> to support our work and instantly unlock our full premium episode library: <a href= "http://patreon.com/badfaithpodcast">http://patreon.com/badfaithpodcast</a> <p>Our panelists:</p> <p>Ben Cohen is an activist who co-founded Ben & Jerry's. He currently divides his time between <a href= "http://AssangeDefense.org">AssangeDefense.org</a>, @<a href= "https://twitter.com/dropthemic2020">DropTheMic2020</a>, working to end qualified immunity, and eating ice cream.</p> <p>Professor Marjorie Cohn is professor emerita at Thomas Jefferson School of Law, former president of the National Lawyers Guild, deputy secretary general of the International Association of Democratic Lawyers, and a member of the National Advisory Board of Veterans for Peace. Her website is <a href= "https://marjoriecohn.com/">https://marjoriecohn.com/</a></p> <p><em><a href= "https://www.orbooks.com/catalog/we-are-millions/">We Are Millions</a> </em>is available from <a href= "https://www.orbooks.com/catalog/we-are-millions/">OR Books</a>. The WeAreMillions photo campaign can be found at <a href= "https://wearemillions.org/">wearemillions.org</a>.</p> <p>Produced by Ben Dalton (@<a href= "https://twitter.com/wbend">wbend</a>).</p> <p>Theme by Nick Thorburn (@<a href= "https://twitter.com/nickfromislands">nickfromislands</a>).</p>

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  • 4_AOC_DMT [any]
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    4 years ago

    yeah tbh though, Virgil is clearly winning every episode.

  • disco [any]
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    4 years ago

    Yeah, pretty good if you're a liberal!

  • TheUrbanaSquirrel [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    I think Virgil and Bri make a good team. They interviewed Andrew Yang and Yang once again dodged Virgil’s direct questions because his UBI plan is terrible and he doesn’t really have an answer to unregulated capital.

    Side note: A recent cold open was about whether Virgil is the “upside down” Nathan J Robinson and it was eye opening. I’m now a VirNat truther.

    • Dumpster_fire_pants [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Haven't heard that episode. I guess I can understand interviewing Yang because he did have a following but UBI without rent control etc is just kicking the ball down the road.

      • TheUrbanaSquirrel [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        This is the second time Virgil interviewed Yang. Both times he pushes Yang on the weaknesses of UBI but Yang dodges. I kinda thank Yang and is trying to elevate his brand to get a job in the administration in order to sell out to consulting firms after. Like so many who have gone before...

    • Dumpster_fire_pants [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      They spent a lot of time talking about Julian Assange. Nobody else in liberal media will touch that topic cause Hillarys emails, so..

      • Darkmatter2k [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        yeah liberal media is just a very low bar to get over, the lefty media i usually consume is already there on assange and have been for a while now. So not for me.

        Nice to hear though, we need more people talking about Assange, especially in lib adjacent media, since lefties and libs even on this forum have a dismissive attitude about whats being done to him.

        • Dumpster_fire_pants [comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          That was their goal I think - talk to the people who are not terminally online, not the inside baseball politics maniacs like us, give the libs a chance to hear outsider politics. Plus Virgil is probably the sexiest chapo so theres that (OK its Matt but)

  • Koa_lala [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Virgil, please do an ama. I know you are reading this.

  • TheBroodian [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Personally, I can't stand it. BJG is like sandpaper to my ears. She's always stuck on how to better speak to liberals, or how to speak to the media, how to phrase ideas to the media, etc. etc. all liberal optics posturing. She doesn't at all seem to me to be a socialist in the least, and she's holding back any meaningful conversation to be had about politics. She wouldn't even allow herself to refer to Joe Biden as an enemy in the most recent episode of Citations Needed as their guest.

  • NeoAnabaptist [any]
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    4 years ago

    They've had some missteps for sure, but this was a better episode. I hope they keep it up.