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  • marxdude69 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    he says that race in the US will always have a 1:1 relationship with class

    Where does he say this? Using quotations please.

    • PermaculturalMarxist [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      I honestly can't give you one single quotation since the argument is kind of spread out in between a lot of anecdotes and it is left to the reader to connect the dots. He does say "Race as a form of class is very tangible, solid, material," which is where he puts this forward most clearly in the interview I'm talking about.

      • marxdude69 [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        He says its "socially constructed" right there! I can't see anywhere where he says race "will always have a 1:1 relationship with class" like you claimed. Saying that he leaves it up to the reader to "connect the dots" - more accurately he doesn't say it at all. Probably best not to make things up if you can't find quotations to support your assertion.

        • PermaculturalMarxist [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          I know he says its socially constructed, it's just that, from what I understood in the interview, he believes that the US, as opposed to Europe, has this unique situation of "colour-coated classes" (pretty sure that is from the same interview) where this social construct simply lines up with class. Maybe "1:1" was a strong way of putting it. If you think I'm misreading Sakai and that his ideas are actually compatible with Marxism I would actually really like to hear it. I haven't read Settlers yet but I was recommended the interview as an intro to Sakai by people who swear by the book.

          • marxdude69 [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            The situation is different to that in Europe because USA is a settler colony. Sakai is Marxist and uses Marxist analysis in his history of class in the USA.