• abdul [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    This is the stupidest shit I've heard of in my whole god damn life. Basically everyone is vitamin D deficient. That doesn't mean that when they die, its because they were deficient. Can someone who read the article tell me if they even tried to provide a scientific explanation beyond simple correlation

    • AStonedApe [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Can someone who read the article ...

      Universal suffrage for everyone except those who upvoted this comment.

    • YOuLibsWoulD [he/him]
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      At least read the abstract...

      With a covariate-adjusted relative risk of death of 11.3, mortality was much higher among vitamin D insufficient patients than among other patients. When translated to the proportion of deaths in the population that is statistically attributable to vitamin D insufficiency (“population attributable risk proportion”), a key measure of public health relevance of risk factors [2], these results imply that 87% of COVID-19 deaths may be statistically attributed to vitamin D insufficiency and could potentially be avoided by eliminating vitamin D insufficiency.

      Although results of an observational study, such as this one, need to be interpreted with caution, as done by the authors [1], due to the potential of residual confounding or reverse causality (i.e., vitamin D insufficiency resulting from poor health status at baseline rather than vice versa), it appears extremely unlikely that such a strong association in this prospective cohort study could be explained this way, in particular as the authors had adjusted for age, sex and comorbidity as potential confounders in their multivariate analysis.

      Like if you're argument is, "well did they do high schooler level of analysis before publishing this journal article?" The answer is yeah fucking probably.

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        4 years ago

        Im a med student, I read bullshit medical justifications for drugs and diseases all day, I’m not interested in doing it in my free time.

        I did it anyway because you postured as if the answer here was “yes” when, if you know what enough of those words mean, it’s actually “no and we really have no good theories as to why”. I mean really...the least they could have done was speculate on the effect of Vitamin D on bone health as it relates to the marrow...but it doesn’t sound like they have any clue at all.

        • YOuLibsWoulD [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          There are clearly problems with the article, and i didn't mean to imply it was more certain than the pieces I quoted. They had a total of 118 patients with 16 deaths. Clearly not a basis of any groundbreaking answers, an any conclusions should be taken with plenty of salt. But really I pushed back against your comment because it amounted to, someone should read it to see if they confused correlation and causation, and like come on...

          • abdul [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            Lol I didn’t say anyone confused shit, I just wanted to know if it was meaningfully backed by science or just clickbait.