AStonedApe [they/them]

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  • Your ‘concerns’ amount to enacting literally no policy

    That's a massive strawman. I'm against calling people transphobes for criticizing the removal of downvotes on Chapo. I wasn't against using downvotes to ban transphobes, or against the removal of downvotes, I fucking love forcing pronoun use. I'm arguing against the rhetoric, not the policies.

    while we fucking hemorrhage trans people

    You're telling this to a trans person who was unjustifiably banned because of your policy decisions. Only caring about trans people when it suits your arguments, and ignoring the trans people who were hurt by your decisions, is not trans-positive behavior. I'm just as interested as your are in fixing the transphobic culture on this site, but not if it happens at the expense of some innocent trans users.



  • Calling anyone who disagrees with you about Chapo policy decisions a transphobe is bad, even for trans people.

    Zionists do a similar thing when it comes to conversations about Israel. They call anyone who criticizes Israel an anti-Semite regardless of the contents of the criticism. So you wind up with 1) a general fear of criticizing Israel even when the criticism has nothing to do with Judaism and 2) anti-Israel Jews being dismissed as goyim because of their geopolitical beliefs.




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    I've recently come to realize that I'm trans. If I accidentally used the wrong pronouns when referring to myself (I used to use he/him pronouns and I'm having trouble correcting my habits) and someone else decided that gave them license to also use the wrong pronouns, I'd be pretty unhappy. I don't think there's ever a good excuse for using the wrong pronouns.


  • AStonedApe [they/them]touserunion*Permanently Deleted*
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    for anarchoprimitivism ive obv seen the ‘return to monke’ memers but i’ve also seen people who are genuinely interested in just making a lowtech commune which i think is 100% cool. Posadism is fucking wild and i dont know if its an actual ideology so I am not gonna say I am for or against it yet I just know they believe in aliens which is COOL in my book.

    I think the best thing would be to take personal feelings and understanding out of the equation. Mods should have a coherent and consistent understanding of the rules, otherwise how are the users supposed to know what's acceptable and what's not.

    I have no clue about anti-civ/post-civ ideologies so if you have any good resources on them that you could maybe make a short masterpost on we could totes link people that when we remove sectarian comments regarding them. If you dont have the time its no biggie.

    And these 2 I think are related, but not strictly Anti-Civizilation:


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    4 years ago

    In all seriousness, is Posadism not just a meme ideology? Are there unironic Posadists here?

    I'm not sure if they're on Chapo, but legit, non-ironic Posadists exist.

    An-Primism isn’t leftist...

    I just want to know what the mods consider "leftist" so I can know what is considered sectarianism. I'm not interested in arguing about the specifics of either of these ideologies.


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    At some point I'd love some clarification on these "meme" ideologies from the whole mod team. I'm not a fan of Pasadism or Anarcho-Primitivism in particular, but there are other obscure leftist ideologies that I am a fan of that I see grouped in with the two I mentioned. For example, I've seen a lot of people deride Anti-Civilization/Post-Civilization as Eco-Fascist, which is not only a misunderstanding, but seems like sectarianism to me (even if it's based on ignorance, not malice).


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    4 years ago

    discussing ideologies is fine, bashing ideologies is not (unless they aint leftist obv)

    For clarification, does this rule not apply to Posadism and Anarcho-Primitivism, or do you not consider those ideologies leftist?


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    4 years ago

    I'll try my best. I usually try to just ignore anti-anarchist content for my own sanity, but I should report stuff more often.

    I also think u/trans and I would disagree with the mods about where the line is between sectarian and non-sectarian content. Not to mention that a lot of rules seem to be understood entirely differently depending on which mod you wind up dealing with. There are mods that I have seen actively remove and argue against sectarianism, and there are mods that I have seen engage in and defend sectarianism, so it can often feel like a bit of a crap shoot.


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    4 years ago

    Uh, just be nicer to anarchists, I guess. Not you, but the site in general.

    I think it's interesting that when black, indigenous, or trans users claim they're being harassed on the site it's taken very seriously (as it ought to be), but when anarchists claim they're being harassed on the site the common responses are "no, that's not true!" or "there's no possible solution!". Sectarianism is against the rules after all.

    As far as I see, the only hostility I ever see from MLs is when anarchists start CIA posting. When things are neutral there’s rarely drama. I appreciate that positive news about AES might upset you but really that’s your problem not ours.

    See this is exactly the sort of shit I mean. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean anti-anarchist harassment isn't happening.

    And I'm not upset about "AES" (in itself a very non-left-unity phrase when you exclude actually existing anarchist projects like Rojava, Zapatistas, and Smangus from the term), I'm very open to non-anarchist projects. I'm personally of the opinion that no one leftist ideology will work best everywhere, and so I embrace whichever leftist ideology seems poised to take the reigns in any given area. In China this means I support MLM, in Rojava this means I support Democratic Confederalism, and in Smangus this means I support Christian Anarchism.


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    4 years ago

    Anarchist stuff doesn’t get upvoted because there aren’t enough anarchists here, but I don’t see how that’s the fault of us tankies.

    A lot of the anarchists stopped using the site when it became clear that anarchist views would be derided and shouted down at. You may not be aware of it, but there's enough anarchist hate on this website that it makes us uncomfortable, just like communist hate makes MLs uncomfortable on sites like Reddit. Sometimes I'm just looking for a cool place to shitpost without having to see my fellow anarchists called names and laughed at for presenting very basic anarchist values or arguments. You don't have to agree, just would be nice if some folks around here were nicer to anarchists.

    If you're not an anarchist then I don't think you're in a position to argue how it feels to be an anarchist on this site, just like a cis person doesn't know how it feels to be a trans person on this site. A little listening and self-crit could go a long way for many Chapos when it comes to dealing with anarchists.