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  • DornerBros [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Yeah it honestly matters very little what the "people of Taiwan" want. The reason most people of Taiwan are anti-communist is because they're the capitalists and KMT remnants who fled the mainland, the ones who massacred all the leftist and opposition groups in Taiwan with the help of a foreign imperialist power, the US.

    A better analogy would be Israel and citing the far right political views of the average Israeli as a justification for their ethnic cleansing. There's no such thing as self-determination when you're a settler rump state, the idea that you can occupy and brutally subjugate a region for decades then turn around and claim that you democratically represent the people there is absurd.

    You can call it militaristic bullshit but militaristic bullshit is what brought almost every socialist state to power, I see it as a belated finish to the communist revolution and civil war.

    • krothotkin [he/him]
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      It doesn't matter if they're anticommunist. They have their own nation and the right to maintain it as they choose. The civil war is over. China won. Taking Taiwan militarily would just be taking clay at gunpoint for the sake of expansion.

      I don't think Israel is a fair comparison. There's definitely a space to argue that just because a majority of people want something doesn't make it right, but wherever you fall on that spectrum, there is a clear difference between popular genocide and the desire to remain independent from China.

      • DornerBros [he/him]
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        Calling Taiwan a "nation" is a stretch, maybe it's semantics to you but I don't see Taiwan as a nation that can exercise self-determination, they're more of a rump state propped up militarily by a foreign power. That's not hyperbole, the only reason the civil war is "over" is because the US used its fleet to repel a PRC invasion during the 1950s.

        So does a state controlled and shaped by capitalists and anti-communists through violence and foreign support have the "right" to determine Taiwan's political structure and future? I don't think so, in fact I feel pretty hostile towards any secessionist movement supported largely by imperialists, the rich, and anti-communists, it's somewhat of a libertarian fantasy that any region with arbitrarily drawn borders can secede by claiming "popular support", especially when it's a direct result of some combination of mass migration and repression.