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  • PKMKII [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Not to mention that Western forces were depleted at the time on the account of, y’know, fighting the Axis powers.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      1 year ago

      I mean, its the same tired "Stalin shouldn't have stopped at Berlin" argument turned on its head. Trying to tell an entire planet that's exhausted itself through total war for the last ten years "Please do one more war, just bigger this time!" is as insane now as it was back then.

      Nobody was in a position to wage a ground war across the entirety of Europe and the Middle East for a second time. The theory that the Allies (minus Russia, China, and all their regional partners) could have put troops into the center of Moscow in time to stop a test of the RD-1 is... just crazy wish fulfillment. That's not even assuming a post-war Europe heavily tilted towards Soviet Russia as a savior rather than a villain... So many of these pundits think Europeans see the USSR through a post-1980s lens. They've got no sense of history.

      • PKMKII [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        It’s also fed by that American-centric narrative that Allied victory in WWII was overwhelmingly due to American forces with English, French, and Russian forces as background characters. So they assume Russian troops were neither necessary for Allied victory nor an impediment to America.

      • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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        1 year ago

        "Stalin shouldn't have stopped at Berlin" argument turned on its head.

        My dad once unironically said "we should have kept going into Russia" to me whilest watching "Patton", because apparently Patton suggested that once. I was baffled and had no retort. He doesn't know I'm a commie and I'm fixin to keep it that way honestly.

      • Nakoichi [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        Not to mention the US literally did not have the capability to deploy anymore nukes at that point. The "Stalin shouldn't have stopped at Berlin" meme is predicated on this because one of the main reasons the USSR did stop was because they had no way of knowing if the US had more nukes.