For the cissies out there: you’re not a bad person for buying / playing this game if you didn’t know.

That last sentence was entirely there to accommodate cis fragility. :cissues:

Go read that post. The game is bad.

  • the_river_cass [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    my reaction to the first time I saw that image was shock and disgust. I absolutely found it triggering.

    • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      And my reaction as a non-op trans woman was "cool, I unironically hope I can make my character look like that too, but I'm not gonna hold my breath" followed almost immediately by exasperation at the first wave of discourse as it kicked up. Like I get some people are super dysphoric and touchy about that sort of thing, hell I was too eight years ago and I still don't quite know how that changed for me since it seems it usually goes the other way instead, but that's not everyone's experience and I don't really like the implication that art portraying a non-op trans woman who's sexualized in any way is inherently problematic - like I'm a little uncomfortable with it coming from a cis person, even a cis woman who can clearly articulate a trans-positive and feminist critique of how human bodies are commodified, but certainly not enough to decide on the spot that it's an attack on my identity.

      I don't want to be hostile, cause I know this is getting to a topic that seems kind of a split in the broader trans community, but it's also a kind of sore spot for me on account of old conflicts and, I'll admit, the sense of sort of alienation that ending up at a point where I'm both done transitioning and'll still never really be done with it leaves me with.

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        I'm not saying the sexualization of a non-op trans woman is the problem! reread my original quoted post. I'm very clearly pointing to the framing, the manticore bit (seriously, do you know how often they compare us to beasts?), and the grody "mix it up" language that really seals it as chaser shit.

        • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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          I’m not saying the sexualization of a non-op trans woman is the problem!

          Sorry if I jumped to conclusions, I don't know if you saw the edit but like I said there, it's a bit of a sore spot.

          I’m very clearly pointing to the framing, the manticore bit (seriously, do you know how often they compare us to beasts?), and the grody “mix it up” language that really seals it as chaser shit.

          I don't know, I guess I'm just not as put off by that as I once was, as long as there aren't slurs being thrown around and I don't have to see any cis guys doing that hornyposting thing where they're borderline incoherent because they're distracted, that fucking makes my skin crawl no matter who it's aimed at. Maybe I'm just desensitized, maybe I've just insulated myself from having to deal with cis people like that for long enough that I've lost the visceral reaction I once would have had, or maybe at some point my brain just snapped and I stopped caring without realizing it.

          Either way, I'm too tired to keep arguing the point. I understand your point even if I don't agree with it, and I'm perfectly willing to admit that may just be on account of me being too desensitized in general.