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I guess if you throw an egregious amount of magical power at a problem it DOES solve it!
Oh, if you imagine Konsi would pick a less "pop diva" style outfit, and a more "opera singer" style outfit - there's a long-skirt version.
ShowI populated the bar here with characters from my other campaigns, and some other comics - most of these have a high resolution vtt token associated with them - so here are those faces :)
ShowPer our GM - this is the moment Razira realized she wasn't straight after all, but bisexual.
Up until this performance she'd been operating on "I like this girl and want to hang out".
So... when you design a system to use "bounded accuracy" it can fall apart completely if you include a large number of stacking buffs.
WotC's original idea was that the way you'd "buff" someone for a check would be to give advantage on it, and the options for "flat bonuses" (or die-roll bonuses) would be extremely limited... but in hindsight, if you have the right classes and a lot of prepwork, you can force a ~30 roll on nearly any check you care about.
The biggest culprit is, as everyone knows, Pass Without Trace, but don's sleep on the Artificer ability Flash of Genius - it's incredibly impactful.
You say "fall apart". I say "players choosing options and using the buffs to be awesome and thats the point of the game".
Well, by "fall apart" I mean that the purpose of a dice system is to introduce uncertainty. If you remove the uncertainty, then there's not much point rolling dice :)
The game is a mixt between Monopoly and Chess. Where one is almost entirely luck based and one is almost luck less. There is luck and ways to orient it.
Since its an hybrid system, it makes sense for players to invest so many resources to make a check a 100% guarantee.
Well, 95 % at my table since I like to crit fail or crit success checks as long as its reasonnable with the player's consent.
Oh yes... This kind of thing is pretty okay when the scenario is one that DnD 5e is designed for - a day of adventuring with 10 encounters, or a dungeon crawl, or the like. At that point, burning a huge amount of resources on a single check has a real, significant cost to force that success. If you provide these kinds of challenges mixed into the expected scenario-design, then it works well. It means you can say "this matters enough to me to hamstring my later power"
The problem mostly comes in when you're in situations like this - where you don't expect to need all your resources in the day, and burning through them let you force a success on the only check you care about.
Recently no joke, we played a day in a game. We knew an attack was coming, and do you think me as a bard kept my resources for it ? Fuck no. I gave each of them to our mage that tried to catch the mega fish in the fishing competition that morning.
He did it.
It was an epic fishing competition :)
When people say this, they usually mean the story falls apart. Without struggle there’s no story. No one wants to hear the story of the white boy who lived without hardship with rich parents who made B’s and went to Yale and became a lawyer.
You say this like if managing to amass so many buffs throught challenges, choices and costs isn't being done with efforts.
No I’m not, I’m saying the story ends when there’s no challenge. The main character of D&D is always the story.
So, the story of how you managed to accumulate every boon and favor and resources for that one die roll eyins the entire story...
Yeah no.
You can get something like 75-76 with the appropriate buffs.
- Level 20 Rogue, expertise in Stealth, 22 DEX (Manual of Quickness of Action), nat 20 = 38
- +Pass Without Trace = 48
- +Bardic Inspiration from a similarly high-level Bard, max roll = 60
- +Weal from a Stars Druid, max roll = 66
- +Guidance from someone (maybe even the Stars Druid), max roll = 70
- +Flash of Genius from the Artificer = 75 or 76 if they also read the appropriate +2 book.
My wild magic barbarian would like to add another 3 from bolstering magic.
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Glad there were no grumpy divination wizards in the audience!
Actually, the gnome with the blue hair is a divination wizard... :p
ShowOh, none of the other people in this bar know our heroes - they're from other campaigns :)
Recreating that one scene from Shrek 2
Still the only movie to do Holding Out For a Hero justice.
In my mind, she's singing something like "Meadows of Heaven" by Nightwish.
Other candidates include:
- Never Ending Story by Within Temptation
- Master of the Wind by Van Canto
- Cheshire Kitten by S J Tucker
- Neeko’s theme from League of Legends