If I want to have plans to actually leave the United States in the next four years, where should I be looking? I have hereditary Lithuanian citizenship so I might be able to get myself in the Schengen Area with that alone but I'm lucky enough to have expertise in an unspecified industrial technology, with the caveat that I am transgender.

Right now my two choices seem to be European (Germany?) or somewhere in E Asia (Vietnam, PRC). How realistic are either of these options, namely Vietnam or the PRC.

  • MarxGuns [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    PRC is a no-go, at least if you're seeking naturalization. Work visas that are renewed a bunch of times seems to be the way these westerners stick around. Vietnam seems less stringent and a cool place though! I had a chance to go with a buddy to Japan and then to Vietnam (who he moved away from at 11 y/o) to visit. I should have went.

    Ireland seems cool and a somewhat socialist background. A lot of places in Europe seem to be having a rising alt-right presence which is concerning.

    • LesbianLiberty [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Thanks! Yeah, honestly Europe isn't looking great, and if what I hear from my Euro friends is true it seems like as shit gets worse the continent's just gonna get more and more reactionary. Hopefully I'm wrong, but mainland does seem iffy long term.

      • MarxGuns [comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        My favs to dream about are Ireland, Vietnam, China, and maaaybe some Scandinavian country (and Finland). I have a wife and kids though so it's a little hard to organize a move to another country.

  • kaka [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    You could probably get into Germany if you can get a work visa. But be prepared that the German language sucks ass and we'll have the same problems as the US but 10 years later...

    • a_jug_of_marx_piss [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      To be honest, if you are an english speaker german might be one of the languages that sucks the least ass.

      • kaka [he/him,they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Even if that were true, why would you learn the language that just 80 million boomers on this shitty planet speak? Yes I know former colonies and people in the alps...

          • kaka [he/him,they/them]
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            4 years ago

            oh yeah that's pretty bad, but that's just racism, not anticommunism. You see, migrants are doing communist things, that can't happen.

            • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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              4 years ago

              true, but i wouldn't put it past those in power to start rounding up all the commies, considering the neo-nazis are kind of spreading through the bundeswehr and police and the investigations into their crimes all seem to be completely incompetent

              • kaka [he/him,they/them]
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                4 years ago

                Idk I don't think the situation in Germany is good for a coup. But their strengh is slowly rising, I agree.

                • CoralMarks [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  If you really plan to go to Germany, just don't move to Bavaria(south) you will have a bad time.
                  Berlin is probably the best bet, they even just introduced rent-control which seems to be alleviating the problem of ballooning rents for now. Additionally you would not have much problems getting around Berlin, even if you don't know German. Just some small pointers.

    • LesbianLiberty [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Oh cool, glad to hear you're getting Victoria 2 in a week.

      On a more serious note, would it even be worth it? Frankly just looking for a place where I can settle in a city with better worker's protections and healthcare; cool culture and stuff to do helps but you can find that basically anywhere.

      • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        here in england the healthcare is good, the workers protections aren't good, but better than america
        we are kind of the terf capital of the world though, and the tories are, well, tories

        • LesbianLiberty [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          Yeah, I've got the possibility of UK Citizenship if I pursue it, but frankly it just kind of seems like America with healthcare. Nice, might pursue it, but I'm at the dreaming stage right now and might as well see how far I can realistically go with it.

          • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            outside of politics, the weather is very mild, but a lot of days are overcast and grey, we don't do air conditioning and our buildings are made to retain heat, so the 3 weeks of hot weather per year is terrible, none of the wildlife is in any way dangerous and we don't have rabies

              • Waylander [he/him,they/them]
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                4 years ago

                It's fifty percent spa industry which caters to old people, and fifty percent students. Depending on which group you live closer to you might find it very welcoming or a bit shit.

              • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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                4 years ago

                Dunno, never been there, it has a reputation for being a bit posh though, so probably full of unicoms

  • mayor_pete_buttigieg [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Canada? I think you can immigrate if you have in-demand skills, which is probably most technical things. Have to wait until they open their borders again.

  • Oso_Rojo [he/him, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    The odds of getting a work visa outside of the US seem so slim to me. I've had my eye out for international jobs for years but I've never heard back from any applications I've sent out. I've worked abroad before but it was a teaching gig, I don't know how to transition my "professional career" outside of the States.

  • HunterSThompson [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Vietnam. You can disappear there for years, just one more expat. Bloody Marys and all the motorcycles you could ever need.

  • SovietSwine [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Look if you can speak English and get a work visa Australia is not a bad option, its not impossible to get citizenship, though it is hard. We do have healthcare and certain states are better on Trans issues and worker protections than others.

  • quartz242 [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Good question, wife and I are looking at spain, portugal, mexico, and some other in central/south america as we speak english. Gotta find time to get english as a foreign language cert to teach.

  • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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    4 years ago

    What languages do you speak? If you know European languages moving there seems like the easier thing since you have the citizenship.

    • LesbianLiberty [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      I'm American, I can barely speak english.

      Maybe it's time to start learning Lithuanian...