and that NSBM band, peste noire, released an EP with neige called literally "aryan supremacy" - that was in 2001, the same year when neige started alcest as well

uhh ok so neige has said this about the subject:

"I never was involved in any way with any political, racist or xenophobic ideologies. I was just a musician in Peste Noire, most of the time session musician, I never took part of the lyrics or philisophy of the band. At the "Aryan Supremacy" period I was 15 years old and I didn't think about the consequence of recording some music with that band, it always was just musical participation for me. Alcest has NOTHING to do with any hate-based philosophy like racism and as a person I am absolutely NOT into nazism, racism and such ideologies."

which as far as these answers go is actually pretty unapologetic right? actually kinda good, maybe he was an edgy teenager who didn't give a fuck really

but it gets a bit more complicated because by the time alcest released its first demo (2001 as well), the other members left the band, which became a solo project......

......it was only in 2009 that neige got a new member, a drummer - called winterhalter ....

......who also played in peste noire except he did it from fucking 2006-2008

not only that, but that same drummer? he was playing in neige's other project in 2007, amoseours

so there's no fucking way he just cut ties with the band or the whole scene back then right?? like he literally shared a fucking band member with peste noire??

to make matters worse neige described amoseours being formed in the summer of 2004 in Bagnols-sur-Cèze with the purpose of creating music that "reflects the dark side of the industrial era and modern civilization" which i can no longer read as anything else but a conservative dog whistle

is this fucking guy a closeted nazi

i can't listen to a nazi fucks band

he's a fucking crypto-nazi isn't he

    • s0ykaf [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      yea, i mean, they claim to hate capitalism when in actuality they hate consumerism because they associate it with "modern degeneracy", but they do say "capitalism" every time

      i'm not convinced by his argument at all, i find it veeery hard to believe he couldn't find other, non-NSBM musicians for his project

      besides i've just also found out that he also played with another nazi - this one pretty open about it, audrey sylvain - in his other project, amoseours

      like it's just nazis and peste noire-associated people everywhere fuck that