"In short, Detroit is drifting further and further from the starter car, while factories in China are specializing in it. Just don’t expect the latter to solve for the former anytime soon."

https://archive.ph/xYi2U

There is a bit of union blaming in the article, but it is an overall good article. Basically import taxes, tariffs, and anti-Chinese political sentiment prevent us from having sub $20k EV car.

  • sicklemode [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    Beyond predictable. This is simply protectionism designed to artificially stifle competition since the US and EU cannot compete.

    Not only that, they will fight to the death before they let anyone benefit from Chinese liberation from the oppressive tyranny of Western companies.

    Expect to see this with phones, CPUs and GPUs and virtually every other relevant breakthrough technologies coming out of China that have the potential to somewhat alleviate the struggle of poverty.

    As always, it's just class war playing itself out. They will always try and cancel the future.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Here in the UK the chinese gpus are appearing. I noticed that the Colorful gpus are available in some places here, including ebay, and they're CHEAP.

      • sicklemode [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        I noticed that the Colorful gpus are available in some places here, including ebay, and they're CHEAP.

        This is pretty cool. Definitely something to keep an eye on, since I want to upgrade.

        I just expect that when 100% indigenous Chinese technologies fully surpass Western equivalents from Intel, AMD, Nvidia, that the West will go full Gandalf and not allow easy access for their populations.

          • buckykat [none/use name]
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            1 year ago

            Those are still using Nvidia chips. The Moore threads GPUs are completely Chinese, and they're not there yet, but they're on the way.

            • Awoo [she/her]
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              1 year ago

              I want them to flood the market and force the price of everything else down to compete lmao

              • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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                1 year ago

                US: "How dare you (slur for asians) try to develop your economy? War on electronics it is!"

                Also US: Gets its hitech sector washed over in few years

    • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Is there some good material on protectionism from a Marxian perspective? I'm questioning my own views on the subject. If only the US was using protectionism as a measure to maintain high wages in its factories of internationally overpriced commodities, that'd be a pretty good thing, right? Similar to how China's Great Firewall functions as a digital protectionist measure to foster a domestic tech industry that isn't dominated by FAANG like how the internet developed in the rest of the periphery. But it seems like there's a lot of nuances here, like how the West uses protectionism to maintain hegemony.

      • sicklemode [they/them]
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        Is there some good material on protectionism from a Marxian perspective?

        Unsure of this, but would also like to know if anyone does happen to have something.

        If only the US was using protectionism as a measure to maintain high wages in its factories of internationally overpriced commodities, that'd be a pretty good thing, right?

        It wouldn't work long-term. They'd cut the workforce down to the minimum skeleton crew needed to run production and overwork those people. Plus, with China being more competitive in both quality and price, they'd be overtaking US equivalents regardless. US industry itself is dying, and it's irreversible. The falling rate of profit demands lower quality for higher price tags, and the US hasn't been investing into R&D on a level anywhere close to the Chinese, so they have no future in this race.

        China's Great Firewall functions as a digital protectionist measure to foster a domestic tech industry that isn't dominated by FAANG like how the internet developed in the rest of the periphery.

        Well, here's the thing about the Great Firewall: Yes, indeed it was so they could foster a domestic tech industry, but it was also a strategic move to attain sovereignty in their information space and protect them from Western manipulation in China's internal affairs. See this relatively short video here. It's not so similar in that with EVs, people need reliable transportation to survive in the West as they have no high-speed rail networks. With the price of gas, auto repairs and maintenance always going up, these EVs could liberate working class people from dependence on much of the US' fossil fuel and automaker giants, which the US absolutely will not tolerate.

        The US demands a population as desperate as possible to reduce worker bargaining power, increase employer leverage, and maintain their monopolies.

        But it seems like there's a lot of nuances here, like how the West uses protectionism to maintain hegemony.

        That's entirely and always what this is about.

        • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Right, exactly, thanks for this detailed explanation. I wrote the first point specifically because I saw how that contradicted the situation at hand, but it is what I previously believed about protectionism. Also thank you for the video, really captivating explanation there.

          • sicklemode [they/them]
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            1 year ago

            Right, exactly, thanks for this detailed explanation.

            Of course.

            I wrote the first point specifically because I saw how that contradicted the situation at hand, but it is what I previously believed about protectionism.

            Yep, just wanted to reinforce your second thoughts on the matter as being valid.

            Also thank you for the video, really captivating explanation there.

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