bet you feel pretty stupid now, don't you?
this chart is dumb obviously that shape in the middle is the football
it's even brown like a football
You’ve heard of horseshoe theory, you were rocked by fishhook theory, now get ready for, pigskin theory!
Looked up a bit more on this, appears the author considers any -ism to be a religion. Which, on one hand, okay not communism specifically, on the other, a monumentally “I’m 14 and this is deep” take.
Textbooks are shit I got a political textbook rn that is 2 steps away from repeating Judeo-Bolshevism talking points
Sneaky socialists tricking workers into supporting communism by agitating for improving material conditions for workers, but it's all a trick! they're secretly plotting for world domination!
Thank you 19th century monarchists for cleverly outmaneuvering the communist scourge!
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Yes I am a serious academic textbook that you are required to read at a serious international College/University, why do you ask?
if I ever get put against a wall, I would be honored to stand between a Muslim and a Buddhist
Haha man thats whay i thought too, then i cracked some history books and oh boy
u literally could have posted a map of texas and made ur point without sounding like a fuckin nerd
Relativity is as much belief in supernatural order as radiation poisoning is divine retribution. I don't even want to think how ignorant one must be to define religion that way, or single out Islam and Buddhism.
The book is "A Brief History of Mankind" and every chapter I read was as bad as this, full of conjecture drawn from mere bits of evidence, grasping at straws to make grand claims without ever indicating a mechanism for how a thing came to be. Even bad historians make the effort to find a proponderance of evidence, while this guy's methods resemble a certain psychologist.
Superhuman order not necessarily supernatural. Unless you hold the philosophical position in wich reality is a product of human subjective experience. No i have not read the book but it says rigth there in the screenshot.
Its certainly a wierd taxonomy and i have no idea of what uses it may have. But there are sets that can be defined in such a way.
My main issue was with the "belief" and "order" parts so I didn't even notice that I wrote it wrong. In science, there's no concept of order or chaos. These are results of how humans process information and perceive their environment.
Relativity, or any other theory with predictions supported by experimentation are facts, not the order of things. If we find something that might be colloquially called out of order, this means the theory ought to be amended or replaced. This has no bearing on the actual phoenomenon, which was never in contradiction with the occurrance. They also don't require belief beyond the acceptance that our observations ar egenerally accurate.
I should go into why I find his classification of religion entirely off but I'm too sleepy to muster the energy.
To play devils advocate one could argue that the theory of relativity stated as a matematical metaphor is already the information as processed by humans. And that such a descriptive statment about the world implies a belef in consistent natural laws.
I also dont see how that description about religion is useful. Dont worry abou being sleepy. Rest comarade. Somtimes i have migranes and take days to reply
Since you were so kind about it, I'm going to subject you to my thoughts. Mwahahaha!
Here's how I'm differentiatiating between "order of things" and "facts of existance": the former can be broken and corrected, while the latter can't. In every religion, there's an ordained way of how things will happen, there's a divine expectation which may clash with what actually happens. As an exception I suppose there could be an completely deterministic religion that refuses free will, though I haven't heard one and sort of doubt it'd be popular. A fact cannot be trampled. A theory is the best approximation to the fact we've got, and when we're satisfied with it we see the two as interchangable, so a theory ought not be trampled. Something not in accordance with the theory is an indication that the theory needs improvement, not that the event clashes with reality.
This is the part where it all gets mixed up. Religions are all attempts at seeing an order in the universe, and the earliest religions almost always developed out of the same curiosity as sciences. Folks saw the wind, didn't know about air pressure, but knew thwy could blow or suck in air, so they though maybe a giant fella is making it. Earthquakes rumble the earth, and we can rumble a small area if we jump around, so this must be due to some guy down below. Investigating beyond this most obvious answer is how sciences did start. On the other hand, sciences can take a religious tone. If you come up with a theory that's consistent with itself and a few facts outside it, but provides absolutely no avenues to prove itself, i.e. predictions that can be tested, there's very little value in that. Spending years and years tinkering with the maths of a theory explaining the most minute parts of the universe to come up with experiments that might be possible in a century is certainly bordering on a religion experience. Same with constantly trying to break from the standard model to find new things that change everything. But this is getting off-track and this isn't a call-out post. Let's take a step back and see what the author considers religion to be:
Religion can thus be defined as a system of human norms and values that is founded on a belief in a superhuman order. This involves two distinct criteria:
- Religions hold that there is a superhuman order, which is not the product of human whims or agreements. Professional football is not a religion, because despite its many laws, rites and often bizarre rituals, everyone knows that human beings invented football themselves, and FIFA may at any moment enlarge the size of the goal or cancel the offside rule.
- Based on this superhuman order, religion establishes norms and values that it considers binding. Many Westerners today believe in ghosts, fairies and reincarnation, but these beliefs are not a source of moral and behavioural standards. As such, they do not constitute a religion.
My biggest issue here is that guy's supposed to be a historian, meaning he should have the training and proclivity to read any number of texts of how religions developed. Yet, he chooses to go with a purely descriptive definition. He doesn't even use more specific language like Eco with fascism (which also suffers from trying to define based on characteristics instead of how it came about) so much so that you could arguably use this definition to call the family a religion. For small children, the parents are essentially superhuman, they create an order beyond the kids' understanding. Same with government, if a policy is in the interest of and desired by 90% of the population and yet not implemented, how is this not a superhuman order? I admit that latter one is a bit flimsy, but that's the natural result of careless descriptive definitions.
Buddhism is halfways between football and the theory of relatively and halfways between Islam and communism.
I am very intelligent.
It’s weird that Islam, Buddhism and communism are in the golden pussy but football isn’t.
Even if your team loses all the time playing footballs a great way to get laid.
Man we are such a cursed species
Gifted with the ability to conceptualize our society as a whole but without the ability to hold all its pieces still for analysis. It's like all we can do is stare at a tiny sliver of a huge line graph and guess at the larger trends beyond.
I don't want to shit on people's beliefs but there has got to be a way for us to manage the uncertainty of it without imagining that we humans are central to it all, right?
Of course I don't want to wind up like this guy, feeling myself separate from any meaning made by large bodies of people thinking congruously, so I'll point out I WANT COMMUNISM
Looks like the treasure map leads to the windy valley where we'll find the Lost Dutchman's Mine
Is this goatse?
do u like it?
