It's not that I think Republican voters have consistent ideology, it's that it's a numbers game, and some will be peeled off of their representatives either way. Like we just saw that shit in Georgia, which would have been 2 or 1 republicans if they hadn't infought.
With Trump getting owned, the consent manufacturing machine will be somewhat less efficient as well. They need a powerful daddy to be brave for them, and losing isn't powerful.
It's not like people are going to flip blue or whatever, they're just going to be depressed.
With force the vote, all these mother fuckers have to do is look down the hall, see that the senate is still there, and call up their boy at Anthem Blue Cross and tell them "yeah this is just a bullshit vote, don't worry I aint voting for that shit if this somehow ever goes anywhere" then they're gonna run around saying they voted for M4A until the year 2050 when they are still in office and we think "M Three A" has the votes to pass, at which point they will say oopsie doopsie I just really oppose this poison pill which I also put into this bill - how about Captain America 2: Rise of C.O.B.R.A.???
I think the "moderates" are more likely to fall in line no matter what than the psycho Trump folks. The former has loyalty to the party because they're dumb as rocks and only value abstract concepts like that. The latter only got into politics for Trump and were a huge deciding factor for a lot of races (Trump mobilized apathetics while the democrats tried to make even more of their voters apathetic).
But there are all kinds of people, some are loyal Republican voters, some are just half-ass Republican voters, and these fucking ghouls have gerrymandered districts so hard, that their seats are often held up by razor thin margins so that they can have 60 seats with 40% of the vote and shit like that. It's a spectrum between left of center libs and right of center libs, and there are people who casually vote Republican, who are really distressed by the idea of breaking into congress.
Again, it's not huge, most people keep voting for exactly the same dipshits every year, or nobody at all.
But I'm saying the right-leaning "My god, Trump did treason" crowd is a whole fucking lot bigger than the "My house rep voted to give me medicare?? What the fuck, how dare they" crowd.
Like its pretty much been shown that the world population of Blue Dogs is like a hundred guys, theres seriously zero public constituency for that. But then republicans occupy a much wider spectrum of belief.
But I’m saying the right-leaning “My god, Trump did treason” crowd is a whole fucking lot bigger than the “My house rep voted to give me medicare?? What the fuck, how dare they” crowd.
Exactly. The Dems can easily vote for M4A and tell their donors a different story, like Kamala did after cosponsoring M4A. I doubt it is possible for a Dem to lose votes in the general election over an M4A vote.
It's not that I think Republican voters have consistent ideology, it's that it's a numbers game, and some will be peeled off of their representatives either way. Like we just saw that shit in Georgia, which would have been 2 or 1 republicans if they hadn't infought.
With Trump getting owned, the consent manufacturing machine will be somewhat less efficient as well. They need a powerful daddy to be brave for them, and losing isn't powerful.
It's not like people are going to flip blue or whatever, they're just going to be depressed.
With force the vote, all these mother fuckers have to do is look down the hall, see that the senate is still there, and call up their boy at Anthem Blue Cross and tell them "yeah this is just a bullshit vote, don't worry I aint voting for that shit if this somehow ever goes anywhere" then they're gonna run around saying they voted for M4A until the year 2050 when they are still in office and we think "M Three A" has the votes to pass, at which point they will say oopsie doopsie I just really oppose this poison pill which I also put into this bill - how about Captain America 2: Rise of C.O.B.R.A.???
I think the "moderates" are more likely to fall in line no matter what than the psycho Trump folks. The former has loyalty to the party because they're dumb as rocks and only value abstract concepts like that. The latter only got into politics for Trump and were a huge deciding factor for a lot of races (Trump mobilized apathetics while the democrats tried to make even more of their voters apathetic).
But there are all kinds of people, some are loyal Republican voters, some are just half-ass Republican voters, and these fucking ghouls have gerrymandered districts so hard, that their seats are often held up by razor thin margins so that they can have 60 seats with 40% of the vote and shit like that. It's a spectrum between left of center libs and right of center libs, and there are people who casually vote Republican, who are really distressed by the idea of breaking into congress.
Again, it's not huge, most people keep voting for exactly the same dipshits every year, or nobody at all.
But I'm saying the right-leaning "My god, Trump did treason" crowd is a whole fucking lot bigger than the "My house rep voted to give me medicare?? What the fuck, how dare they" crowd.
Like its pretty much been shown that the world population of Blue Dogs is like a hundred guys, theres seriously zero public constituency for that. But then republicans occupy a much wider spectrum of belief.
Exactly. The Dems can easily vote for M4A and tell their donors a different story, like Kamala did after cosponsoring M4A. I doubt it is possible for a Dem to lose votes in the general election over an M4A vote.