Swedish social democracy blames immigrants for their own disastrous coronavirus response. It's high time US socialists stopped idolizing Sweden.
Swedish social democracy blames immigrants for their own disastrous coronavirus response. It's high time US socialists stopped idolizing Sweden.
As a Swede, bloody everyone is to blame. We all knew we needed to wear masks. We all knew we needed to stay home when we could.
But there ain't no one giving a shit. I work at arm length from critical covid patients, and a lot of my co workers wouldn't wear masks when off work, even though we're pretty much walking plague. I didn't even start seeing other people with masks on the bus with any regularity until just recently, because people blindly follow government regulations, even though we knew already those regulations weren't enough!
Only recently has it been actually allowed for us to wear masks at work, also when we ain't in close contact with covid patients.
And you wouldn't believe the bitching about it.
And of course immigrants are more affected like 70% of the other cleaners at work are immigrants, while loads of my friends clog up the group chat talking about "having to work from home" and they're like 90% Swedish born to Swedish parents.
Of course the poor bastards who slave in the bloody plague mines have more cases. It ain't rocket science.
Disagree, pushing personal responsibility for issues like this is pointless, your government is 95% to blame for trying to coast through this by doing basically nothing. It has generally been the case that where governments stepped in fast enough and locked down hard there has been little issue and many such counties have been able to return to some normality. Don't put too much blame on other people even if they are behaving irrationally. It is the governments job to control pandemic outbreaks not an individuals and in this case your government has failed. The blame is theirs.
I see what you mean. But I still feel that if the government does shit wrong, it's our duty to shame them, to force them to do whats right, to kick in doors if we have to.
It's wrong of me to be mad at everyone who thinks their night out is worth thousands of deaths, but I'm still pissed off, and I can't stop being pissed off.
I'll keep being pissed off until this shit's over, because the alternative is just being hella sad and going to bed drunk every night.
But you are right. Still pissed off tho. Part of it is that I ran into a bona-fide anti-maskers the other day. Still processing that. I used to think people were just lazy. Hoping that pretending shit was normal would make shit normal. And then I ran into this fucker just... Just being the worst.
Still kinda processing that.
But you're right. I'm just... I'm just so fucking tired all the fucking time.
It's an understandable reaction tbh, its not like you go outside and see your government sitting around in the street doing nothing, you see people doing stupid shit so it's very easy to fall into blaming that much more tangible reason.
As another Swede; yeah
Let's not lie to the Americans here, when you say the cleaners are 70% immigrants, it's a lot of Polaks and other Eastern Europeans. Americans have some lunacy driven race theory that poor immigrants have to mean they are non-European
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Yeah. We had that problem when we were training up people for the covid wards. A lot of people felt they couldn't do it, because they had parents and grandparents living with them, and didn't want to bring it home with them.
WYeahe're better organized now, and weve got more people trained up, but for a while there, it was a bit hairy.
One of the problems with using masks was how bullish FHM was up until very recently about how they don't help. So the Swedish exceptionalism slams in and suddenly everyone else is just doing it wrong. It was only in the last month that FHM recommended masks if you're in crowded public transport.
And those recommendations only came into effect last week, at least in my region, and it's actually been very impactful, from <10% to >50% of people on the bus I'd say. Recommendations and rules work, the government trusts individuals to take responsibility way too much
Yeah. If there is one thing that should have made the corona response a slam dunk it is how trusting swedish people tend to be of government advice. If instead of spending about a year muddling through with half measures they'd gone in with decisive action thousands of deaths could have been avoided. Like, sure, if everyone followed social distance perfectly masks would not be necessary, but I don't see how people will ever be able to do that fully. They are an extra precaution and should be recommended as such. When coupled with how they didn't even want to test people for corona unless you were seriously ill at the start, there was nowhere to go other than disaster.
They didn't even discourage going to fucking ski resorts this winter. Ski resorts are a place where illness has never spread, as we all know. Might as well start having music festivals and expect people to stand 2,5 meters apart.
Absolutely. The hard rules don't seem to be enforced either. I'm pretty sure restaurants shouldn't have more than 4 people per table but where I work we've never done anything about it, I kinda want the company to get charged.